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Riot gives us a free skin for making it to level 9 on new accounts, but why does it have to be Ashe?

OneFreeSkin··25 votes·9,352 views

Why isn't it random? Or better yet, why does Riot give us 3 champions instead of just giving us champion shards and enough blue essence to unlock the champ shards if we so choose? What if we don't like Ashe Garen or Brand All 3 of those champs are available eventually through weekly rotation so why would we not be allowed to choose to spend the blue essence on different champions if we so choose?

Riot did this for a little known mechanic from hextech crafting, that allowed players to get one free skin for a new champion that they liked by owning only that champion and purchasing it first.

This mechanic was intentional. It is incredibly improbable that they could accidentally add a feature that would allow new players to get a guaranteed skin from the one free premium box that they gave us at level 5 before the rework.

I have no problems with Riot taking away this mechanic as they are a company and making money is their top priority, but the least they could do is admit that they give us champions and not blue essence specifically for that reason? There is no logical reason for riot to not give 450 blue essence for levels 2 and 3 and 3150 (the cost of Brand) at level 4 other than this one.

Would someone please prove me wrong? I want to think Riot isn't so petty that they would remove the one true piece of free loot in the hextech crafting system.

37 Comments

TyrekGoldenspear15 votes

We get a free Ashe skin so we can show it off with our patented Thornmail Ashe we learned from the tutorials.

OneFreeSkin1 votes

Lol

DariusDemiurge5 votes

Why are they giving new players brand and not something easier?

Infernape5 votes

For a challenge? Tbh it should be Annie.

DariusDemiurge1 votes

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For a challenge? Tbh it should be Annie.

Exactly. Or a few others mages.

Recon12122 votes

I mean Brand ins't that hard and if i'm not mistaken Brand is 4800. So it's more beneficial for the player to get a free 4800 champ than a 450.

Barley2 votes

Are you level 30? Cause I am and I still don’t have brand. They should get somebody easier, like Ryze. Igor Ryze

notice me Sin pi2 votes

u r either playing on patch 1.0.0.32 or ur sarcasm isnt obvious enough

Thefrostyviking3 votes

Brand is probably easier for new player due to his range x)

Makes him safer in lane and all that.

And in teamfights you just have to W-R at a semi decent time to earn your teammates admiration x)

notice me Sin pi3 votes

tbh i think Brand is more newbie-friendly than Annie . To play annie effectively, it requires that you know how to make use of enemy cooldowns cuz of her short range. And knowing enemy cooldowns, let alone the concept of abusing enemy cooldowns, is not something a newbie would be capable of. To play brand effectively, just W to poke from distance. And occasionally throw in Q and R. This does not require knowing enemy cooldowns.

EDIT: Brand's QWER abilities are damage(+stun), damage, damage, and damage. Brand player doesnt even have to bother knowing the passive to make effective use of it. Annie's QWER abilities are damage(+stun), damage(+stun), damage reduction, and damage(+stun, +pet control). And if Annie player wants to use the passive, she has to actively keep track of the passive stacks and sometimes even hold off on using abilities to not reset the stacks. Lastly, giving Brand lets newbies have experience with skillshots, unlike Annie. And newbies would certainly need that experience early on.

Sraeg20131 votes

To play Annie effectively you smash your face into the keyboard while Tibbers does 1.5k damage to a stunned enemy.

notice me Sin pi2 votes

when i was a newbie, i personally found Annie incredibly difficult to play but i suppose it's just me only. I was able to actually play her decently only after i found out i could abuse enemy cd. [zombie-brand-clap] i spammed long ranged Lux back then cuz i was way too passive to get into enemy range, and she's still my #1 highest mastery champ sitting at around 200k. But i rarely even play her these days.

The Stabby Tabby2 votes

Whoah man, you're stepping on thin ice.

The forums don't like to hear that Annie might not be completely braindead.

Elsewise5 votes

Shoot, I've been 30 for awhile, and I don't have brand. xD

Kubox4 votes

I'm pretty sure they give you those champions so actually new players who don't know anything about the game get champions that are easy to play.

OneFreeSkin1 votes

But garen and ashe are in the new player matchmade rotation. So why would they give us those champions if we're already going to have access to them?

Kubox2 votes

So that once they out-level that rotation, they don't have to be scared to be screwed out in a rotation where none of the champions are simple enough for them.

If anything, your arguments supports giving them champions from that pool. After all, there's no better champion to give a player than the one he has experience with.

OneFreeSkin1 votes

Yes but what I'm asking you directly is why do they not give us the blue essence so we can CHOOSE to buy the champions, what if we played both of those champs and didn't like them? Riot is going to force them on us instead of giving us the blue essence to do with what we choose?

Kubox1 votes

Because that would lead to varying with results potentially leading to varying complaints.

  • Some new players would think that that should keep the resources because the champions that cost more are probably better.

  • Some would buy the wrong champion altogether, leading to a horrible starting experience

  • Some might refuse to use the currency as they think they should wait to use it optimally (for example, wait for shards to pay less).

Now granted, most would go "That's the new player's fault!" which it is, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't limit the options with which they can screw up.

Sukishoo4 votes

They are all easy to learn champions, that's why they give them out at the early level. As for the skin, dunno.

OneFreeSkin2 votes

They are easy to learn champions, ok I'll give you that. But every single one of the champions on the beginner rotation are easy to learn, and it INCLUDES ashe and garen. So why do they force the champions on us when we can play them and try them without owning them?

Owyn3 votes

What Ashe skin? [slayer-jinx-unamused]

REPORTYASUOXD2 votes

Because if they do that they will miss out on money because nobody is going to spend money on sherwood Ashe, but someone might get lucky and get a skin for free that they were going to buy.

Rito pls stop the greed.

OneFreeSkin2 votes

Thank you man, you get it. It's not even that bad because Riot cares about making money top priority player base be damned, but hell I just want them to admit it!

Kloqdq2 votes

I do not think we should be giving players a 450 champion when one chest can give you 2 of those. Instead I'd offer these champions.

For Marksman I would go with MissFortune Ezreal Tristana Varus

Probably the easiest of the bunch to get a grasp of and sets the player up nicely moving forward. Ezreal is just the ultimate teacher for stuff like skill shots, flash, etc. Tristana is the easiest of the bunch in my mind and also is cheap so Riot ain't breaking the bank there. MF and Varus teach a variety of different things but they are simple, and teach about team fighting well.

For Fighters my suggestions go out to Darius Poppy Pantheon

Poppy teaches you how to be a tank and allows some wiggle room for going fighter. Darius is a very easy pick and quite rewarding when you pick trades. I am worried he may be the wrong pick for beginners but any new top laner will find good success with it. Pantheon is another one that makes me worried because he is like Darius. However, I think he is just a cheaper man's Darius so it's a good option if Riot doesn't want to give out a larger price champ. Kind of difficult for fighters here since many of them are expensive and have issues.

Mages could be something along the lines of Karma Lux Xerath Ahri

All of these guys are straight forward, simple and teach any aspiring mid laner/mage player the fundamentals of the lane. Would rather see these champions than Brand. Though Brand is a fine options, feel these are good secondary choices.

Häxel1 votes

the champions should be easy for starters. None of these champions are easy for starters with their bunch of skillshots, resets or global pressure (looking at pantha dn xerath). Yea ashe has 2 global abilitys and they have not much impact at beginenrs level. Still if you amster the game you still can master ashe. Shes easy to learn but definetly not easy to master.

Kloqdq2 votes

I honestly just don't agree with giving new players 2 champions that they can buy almost right away. Feels so cheap and these champions are already on the new player free rotation. Just doesn't seem right to be the rewards for the new players.

Häxel1 votes

kinda Understand that but why should you even get big rewards by downloading the game? Rewards should be given after some time. Also they could instead of ashe, garen and brand give players tristana, alistar and garen, yes. Would be maybe even less good cause you already get skins (and with not owning the champion the champ itself) by following Lol on Facebook, Youtube and Twittter for free. So with only Garen being in both pools you can easily get 5 free Champions. And even if they can buy 450ip champs right away maybe they just don't do it. I just bought recently my last few remaining 450ip champs. Wasn't that interested in Annie or Singed. Still you have with Ashe Garen and Brand 3 out of 6 Classes and can play 4 out of 5 roles while jungle is not even available in early levels (smite disabled). You can play Garen as Tank or Full ad. You can play Brand on Mid or Support. And with Ashe you can assist your teams with good ults, slows, and Vision too. You even learn maybe with time to sue the global benefit from ashe.

OneFreeSkin1 votes

They force the champions on you so you can't abuse the free skin mechanic from before I guarantee it. Riot is that petty.

Kloqdq2 votes

I want to believe they aren't doing that but it could be possible considering all the blows to currency and item gains.

Taeseuk1 votes

The idea is to allow you to have 3 champions that are east to play that you've played a lot, most people already know what kind of role they will want to play based on what kind of champion they like. Giving you these three champions allows you to play a lot of games on them and learn them even after the new player rotation ends.

Most people will like one of the three champs enough to keep playing them.

As for the skin Ashe is a popular champion with many skins, Shea also somebody that has cheaper skins along with the fact that almost everybody plays her at some point or another she us a logical choice for a skin.

OneFreeSkin1 votes

If people were going to buy Ashe, then they could have used Blue essence from a chest to buy her. If they wanted her they would and easily could purchase her themselves, so why force the champion on us? It's purely to make the first champion you buy Ashe so that you can no longer abuse the one free skin mechanic that they had because Riot is that petty. Sure they are a business I would just love a Rioter to admit this to be the truth.

Żügżwäng1 votes

Ashe is viable. Garen is currently super strong. Brand carried me to gold in the last 2 days when 3v3 was full of tryhard platinum and diamond players going for the chroma.

A great selection for newbies I'd say. You also do get enough essence for 3 expensive champs.

OneFreeSkin2 votes

Let me ask you this then. Why would Riot put Ashe and Garen in the beginner champion rotation pool if they are just going to force those champions on us anyway? When I started my League account with my buddy we tried every champ on the rotation and neither of us played ashe or garen past 1 game I chose Lissandra and he liked Jinx. Why would Riot force champions onto people that have a 50% chance of being played instead of giving them blue essence to buy them themselves if they so choose? Do you think League players are too dumb to use the shop?

Żügżwäng2 votes

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Let me ask you this then. Why would Riot put Ashe and Garen in the beginner champion rotation pool if they are just going to force those champions on us anyway? When I started my League account with my buddy we tried every champ on the rotation and neither of us played ashe or garen past 1 game I chose Lissandra and he liked Jinx. Why would Riot force champions onto people that have a 50% chance of being played instead of giving them blue essence to buy them themselves if they so choose? Do you think League players are too dumb to use the shop?

Because Jinx and Lissandra are premium heroes. You're free to buy them with your Blue essence. I'm not defending the system, nor the rate at which champions are acquired, but ashe/garen are cheap, and brand also not as expensive as a 6300. They'll give you a base so that you can compete.

From there, you have to grind like the rest. You can easily unlock lissandra or jinx or <whoever> with the initial blue essence you acquire.

It would be nice if they'd just unlock the roster (like dota), but it's part of riot's monetization model. I think they make way more on skins, but I don't have the data to do a proper analysis. It's not about being too dumb to use the shop. It's about helping completely new players not pick Azir as their first champion, and have a bad time getting stomped. They give you champs that have basic mechanics, and from there you're free to unlock in whatever order you wish.

Sraeg20131 votes

For the same reason Star Wars: Battlefront 2 gives 20k in-game currency for completing the single player campaign instead of unlocking you a 20k hero.

So you can waste it buying something else.

GogoBoki1 votes

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