how i imagine new mordes ult will play out

Jennifer420·May 28, 2019·58 votes·14,937 views

7 seconds in a 1v1 shadow realm. you win and come back into the "real world" and all you see is 4 dead teammates and 4 full hp enemys alrdy waiting for you lul

44 Comments

DuskDaUmbreonMay 28, 201943 votes

Yo dawg, we heard you wanted to have more of the experience of toplane, so we let you win a 1v1 only to have your entire team be dead even in late-game!

Sire HippingtonMay 28, 201917 votes

in SoloQ, yes, in pro i imagin he is played as supp or jungle, ults the enemy carry in a TF, runs away for 7sec and his team wins the 4v4 so long as they traded a sup vs a carry.

RagnaveilMay 28, 20191 votes

Idk, I have a very odd feeling the AD would blow him up in less than two seconds since he wont be building damage.

MessyStuffMay 29, 20191 votes

Or another scenario is just steal the jungler for 7 seconds while your jg gets drake/baron.

14daysuspensionkMay 28, 20195 votes

Imagine having 1 hp left and he ults you while you're trying escape 4 enemies.

HammermancerMay 28, 20195 votes

Yuumi + Mordekaiser = 2v1?

VoidnerMay 28, 20191 votes

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+ = 2v1?

Woah that's actually interesting

2RodsMay 28, 20191 votes

What about if Kayn is ulting the Morde?

HammermancerMay 28, 20191 votes

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What about if Kayn is ulting the Morde?

What if a kayne ults a morde with a yuumi on him as morde ults an enemy ADC with a shen ult on her?

TerozuMay 28, 20191 votes

Kayn Shen and Yuumi all get juxtaposed out of the death realm at their respective cooridinates.

SarlonDubiousMay 28, 20192 votes

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+ = 2v1?

she gets detached when he ults

9mm ValentineMay 28, 20194 votes

If he takes Evelynn, 7 seconds in heaven. heh heh

Mokuto BunshiMay 28, 20193 votes

Mord screams gargoyles stone plate to me for this reason. I dont need to be very tanky always, just extreemely tank RIGHT NOW.

TerozuMay 28, 20191 votes

ooh yeah that'd be a good synergy item.

XJ99999999999999May 28, 20192 votes

lol'd

Lil Homie bustaMay 28, 20192 votes

A smart team will back off when he ults someone. And by doing this, they can prevent enemy engage and punish them for doing so.

Besides, if he kills someone, he steals part of their core stats, meaning that he will not be easy to kill. Just look to an example of strong Juggernaut, Aatrox. He can 1v5 and still survive if played right.

RagnaveilMay 28, 20192 votes

played right and if the enemy did a dumbo and didn't buy any grievous wound item.

Daddy ReTaricMay 28, 20192 votes

Ult the fed adc. Your team wipe enemy team. If you win , ace. If you lose, enemy adc get killed 100% after morde ult end. Its basically broken against adc because he steal their stats on top of it..

WoodakoodashoodaMay 28, 20191 votes

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7 seconds in a 1v1 shadow realm. you win and come back into the "real world" and all you see is 4 dead teammates and 4 full hp enemys alrdy waiting for you lul

Nah, it'll probably be more along the lines of Morde ults the low health fed carry and the carry kills Morde while the carry's allies do away with Morde's allies because they fed the carry and all Morde's had for lunch is a hundred or so creeps in top. And the carry turns to their team and says, "Oh, good, you managed to do something without me."

Posui GartMay 28, 20191 votes

Add a reset on ult kill, problem solved

PermaJinxedMay 28, 20191 votes

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Add a reset on ult kill, problem solved

Screams Mortal Kombat style tournament to me......

4th3t0sMay 28, 20191 votes

https://i.imgur.com/ST70vXi.gif

hrooza dota May 28, 20191 votes

im expecting my ally mordes to ulti a yuumi

and then the yuumi get out

Critty92May 28, 20191 votes

enemys

Enemies*

The King DiamondMay 28, 20191 votes

And then u kill the rest of them!

Beacon AcademyMay 28, 20191 votes

I can't help but feel like something like this existed before though...

[poppy-wink]

4th3t0sMay 28, 20191 votes

Difference here is he can't target anyone except who he ulted; old Poppy being able to ult a support then 1v4'ing the rest of the team was horseshit.

FSRERMay 28, 20191 votes

This....is a completely useless ultimate. A duelist having it? would be amazing, on a ap juggernaut? Yeah...about that. Like lets see at which lane morde is going to be played.

Toplane? He will get 1v1ed by half the roster excluding tanks which he will destroy with conqueror (yeah, morde will play with that rune) Jungle? No more dragon passive (yeah screw you riot about this one) and his kit might work but it is as bad as old mordekaiser or like as bad as a garen jungle who can kill people only with ult, so can morde (if it has medium range but if it is small range...screw that too) Midlane? I think that is out of the question already because morde will lose from ranged and melee at midlane even tho that would be perfect (in map placement) for his w to work so...that won't work as well Adc? With his new e and a leona/thresh/morgana/blitzcrank/nautilus, yeah, that would be the perfect lane for him And support? If his ally get bonus xp yeah but other than that, league doesn't have engage adcs yet (except if the one CertainlyT is working will have) so, it will be heavily dependant on his e (which I guess will be something like swains?)

So, in which lane does his ult come into place? Top? He will lose the 1v1 except when facing tanks Jungle? Maybe Mid? Mages can still kite him (and burst him) Adc? Situational depending on champ (vs a jinx? ok, good you won, vs a vayne? Unbind R cause you won't be needing it) and he will also leave his support behind which wouldn't be ideal. And at support, it won't work because you know...support items?

Now, what can Riot do to make it better? Make morde get some counter stats to what he is facing Ad? Give him some armor in the realm Ap? Give him some magic resist in the realm And if Riot cares about his ult being viable and not crap, they would make it more complex like, if he is vs an attack speed champion (lets say with 1.50 attack speed) the realm to have an aura to lower his attack speed to, 1.30! Something like that, will truly make his ultimate good.

But Riot won't do it anyways so, who cares?

GreenLoreMay 28, 20193 votes

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This....is a completely useless ultimate. A duelist having it? would be amazing, on a ap juggernaut? Yeah...about that.

I think thats the entire reason why they gave Morde said ultimate. Remember that they had planned almost the exact same ultimate for Fiora, where she forces her enemy into a 1v1 with her, but they opted for a different ultimate, because it turned out to be pretty op on Fiora.

The fact that Mordekaiser isn't unstoppable in a 1v1 is the entire reason why they even let him have such a powerful ability at all.

Also Morde does steal some of the stats of his enemies when he uses the ult and keeps them for a while if he wins, so the odds are definitely stacked in his favor when he uses it correctly.

RagnaveilMay 28, 20192 votes

Right, lets give it to someone like Fiora (and probably keep her current ult in it just to even drive the point home more) and see how that would fair. Hint: You'd question why the hell you played in the first place. Her having that would be by definition "0 counterplay" when you add the rest of her kit into it. Genuinely dont understand why Riot changed Riposte to be a stun for christ sake. It legit makes matchups like Aatrox 100% in her favor even if he plays the matchup right.

Secretly a PhosMay 29, 20191 votes

Changed it to be a stun? It only stuns if it blocks cc.

OtterlyLostMay 28, 20191 votes

My thing about his ult is that it will be impossible to balance. Like multiple other things. Like what is the counterplay of Morde ulting the fed ADC? A solo ADC will not be able to fight a Morde 1v1 and the enemy team suddenly lost a huge chunk of their damage in exchange for the Morde's team just losing a battle mage front line.

NoblewindMay 28, 20191 votes

The ult has some legit weaknesses which I like. You get taken out of the fight and you're tied to that part of the map for a significant duration, and the duration is also going to be right around that mark where it's not a guarantee you actually kill every 1v1, especially in games where you're not already ahead.

He's going to share basically the same weaknesses as a Darius, Nasus, Illaoi. Anti-healing, zoning his ult, etc will hurt him a lot.

ITZ ICYMay 28, 20191 votes

OR If enemies have a very problematic front line, Morde can just ult him so your team can actually get into a fight and win. OR Enemy adc/apc is fed and destroys your team from backlane, you ult and get in on him giving your team a chance to win a fight. etc.

This ult will have a lot of uses that will heavily rely on a player's skill to discern what's the best depending on his team, enemy team and state of the game, so definitely a nice ult that will put his skill ceiling high. I think this might be a champ that's actually more relevant in high elo. We will see though. It definitely allows Morde to play an important role even if he's behind. (I mean, if you are 0/7 and enemy Vi 12/3 is destroying your team, you can get her out of the fight).

I'm also curious how it will interact with some ults (e.g. Vi, Urgot)

I'm 1000% sure it's a really good ult for stealing barons/drakes, you ult enemy Jungle and your jungler goes in for the smite.

Secretly a PhosMay 29, 20191 votes

True. What happens if urgot ults someone and then he ults them? What if he ults whoever skarner is ulting? What about Shen ult? What about Kayn ult? What about Akali e?

ITZ ICYMay 29, 20191 votes

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True. What happens if urgot ults someone and then he ults them? What if he ults whoever skarner is ulting? What about Shen ult? What about Kayn ult? What about Akali e?

Ikr? So many questions. Will Tibbers teleport along with Annie? Azir's soldiers? What if the target gets ulted by Camille? I mean, the ult says you can't escape by ANY means. What if Ekko ults? I mean, 4 seconds ago he was outside of his ult, wasn't he? What about Yuumi? What if Morde ults a target she's attached to? Maybe that was their plan? For Yuumi to counter new Morde?

Honestly, those are just a few question and maybe this ult isn't something that should appear in this game, if it might create so many problems.

noopertonMay 28, 20191 votes

If their jg ganks you while you are lvl 6 and they aren't fed you can just ultimate on their jg and it's a free kill unless they run.

Secretly a PhosMay 29, 20191 votes

Can Shen ult to him during ult? I know Yuumi detaches, but can Shen do it since it's after the ult? If not, can Shen just not ult or does it go on CD with nothing happening?

SoconMay 29, 20191 votes

How it'll be on release: "hurr. All i. Have to. Do. Is ult the most fed person and most job is done. *gets killed in 2 seconds and the team porceeds to lose 4v5. "OMG guys i did my job"

SoconMay 29, 20191 votes

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How it'll be on release: "hurr. All i. Have to. Do. Is ult the most fed person and most job is done. gets killed in 2 seconds and the team porceeds to lose 4v5. "OMG guys i did my job"