vandiril has yet to tell us why he unlisted this video showcasing that the pbe is a waste of resourc

Jennifer420·4/28/2019, 1:19:39 PM·28 votes·11,531 views

call me tinfoil person, but in all my years vandiril never unlisted/removed a video. and ignores all questions WHY he did. who knows if that was riot asking him to remove this video because who knows why.

never forget, pbe is kept alive for no reason but "not enough resources" for nexus blitz/dominion.

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Hammermancer4/28/2019, 1:56:17 PM18 votes

I mean

I don't understand why the PBE exists separately when you could sorta easily have the test content in the normal client...

Marshbouy4/28/2019, 4:07:10 PM10 votes

I think riot has major issues when it comes to listening to feedback, especially in the report a bug department.

I'm not entirely sure it is the developers fault, though, as it is far more likely to be executive wanting to push out content/ignoring bugs in favor of new stuff.

FlashnFuse4/28/2019, 7:52:52 PM10 votes

The problem with bug reporting is that sometimes it can be difficult to trace down the route cause of a bug and fix it, and if the bug isn't too gamebreakingly bad they'll let it through to a live release.

The thing is, if a bug report doesn't have 100% reliable means of replicating a bug it can make it way more difficult to trace down that bug and squash it.

When Rakan was on PBE, there was a literal gamebreaking bug where if two Rakans ulted and ran into each other the game would immediately crash. They responded to that bug and fixed it very quickly because the repro steps were easily identifiable making the bug easier to track down and fix.

Kaisha4/28/2019, 5:07:10 PM4 votes

The excuses they give you are just that, excuses. They have no correlation to reality and are just made up on the spot to placate the masses. We don't have enough resources, it takes more time, we're balancing around pro (that last one is particularly funny, like pro has ever been remotely balanced...), its all just excuses.

They do what they want, how they want, when they want, and then just try to find a way to justify their incompetence.

LazyW0lf4/29/2019, 3:16:39 PM1 votes

PBE is kept alive so that it can be used as a second step in the development process. There should be an internal dev server that they can use for risky changes like changing or cleaning up code, then they push things to PBE as a collective unit and for users to find the bugs while the dev team works on other areas or has meetings. It's meant to kill two birds with one stone and keep the process moving along, while also not having to hire hundreds of bug testers.

Yes, unfortunately the PBE is not a place where all bugs are fixed because there are so many of them. There's always a priority list and if the devs can't reproduce the issue within 1-2 minutes, they'll move onto another bug in the list. It's up to the users to compile the bug report properly, which is why the PBE forums have a template to use and ask the user to be as specific as possible. They'll check off bugs from the list but keep priority bugs on their mind to sink more time into when they can spare it.

TL;DR: PBE is kept alive to help RIOT save time and money, while also keeping development moving. Not all bugs can be fixed quickly and devs rely on the users to compile a proper report, which does not always happen.