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No more rerolling champ shards?

Alex h8721··11 votes·8,633 views

I started playing around the end of s6. I own 71 of the champs now, several of the 6300 ones. Got my 1st level up in the new system, the champ shards I got were ALL champs I already owned, and all 1350 and under w/ a warwick shard (oooo 90be so great).

And I am very displeased to see that I cannot reroll 3 champ shards for a champ permanent like in the old system.

This is going to be even worse for people who have even fewer champs, the 1350 champ shards give 270 be for disenchanting. even if all 4 shards had been 1350s, that would have a total disenchant value of 1080, and couldnt even buy a 1350 cost champ I dont own.

This is ridiculous and its now going to take ages for people to buy champs they want, especially the expensive ones, unless of course they spend $$$$$$$ on riot points.

This is incredibly weak in my view, rerolls on champ shards should come back, yeah it was random and could stick you with a cheap champ or one you didn't really want, BUT that is far superior to NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY A CHAMP AT ALL with the disenchanted blue essence.

Compared to many I am a fairly new player (only have played for 1 full season), but one thing I enjoyed about the game was finding new champs i like (trying them during free rotation) and potentially saving up for them and trying to master them, and in the old system where you gained IP/game and could reroll champ shards from boxes for a shot at a new champ you wanted it was relatively rewarding, but this new system feels like a ripoff. Played ~ 18 games to level up only to find that I couldnt reroll for a random unowned champ, and since i own all 450 champs, couldnt even buy a new one w/ the disenchanted champ shards just feels really really bad.

I post on these forums a decent bit, and rarely ever make complaint threads but I think this is just egregiously bad. I have 3 close friends who got into the game later in season 7, and i can't help but think how incredibly crappy its going to be for them to save up for the champs they want.

TLDR: Let us reroll champ shards again and/or have more blue essesnce income from different sources because as it stands now it is going to be a ridiculously long grind for anyone who hasn't been playing multiple years to fill out their champ pool.

11 Comments

peleuss6 votes

this is true. this is such a stupid change. Riot is screwing people again. I didn't mind the fact that you could get a cheaper champ. Now, you cant get a single champ unless you disenchant over 7 shards, which is a joke since you do not get shards any faster (in fact it seems slower, since ive opened 7 chest and got 1 shard) they are just trying to get people to spend more money. Oh well, I'll just go play another MOBA.

Stellar Phoenix3 votes

You should try out Battlerite, it's also free to play and it's pretty cool.

El Niño Eskere4 votes

This is true. I own all the champs and I kept 3 shards to reroll into Zoe (when she comes out). But now those shards worth nothing and I cant reroll. I am disapointed Riot.

Mysticman893 votes

If you could reroll champ shards in the new system, I'd be getting like two 6300 champs per day (owning all the cheaper ones already), which would be kinda silly. Those with fewer champs could get at least 2, albeit potentially cheaper ones, but also possibly more if they opted to upgrade cheap shards into perms.

On average the long term rate of BE gain (and in turn champs) is better (see math here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/Jh3Mtzu6-blue-essence-earn-rates-learning-the-numbers-with-carl-and-henrietta), it just feels somewhat worse because of the delayed pay offs.

Beastmanrules3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Alex h8721,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=c22emWK7,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-09T20:09:34.090+0000)

I started playing around the end of s6. I own 71 of the champs now, several of the 6300 ones. Got my 1st level up in the new system, the champ shards I got were ALL champs I already owned, and all 1350 and under w/ a warwick shard (oooo 90be so great).

And I am very displeased to see that I cannot reroll 3 champ shards for a champ permanent like in the old system.

This is going to be even worse for people who have even fewer champs, the 1350 champ shards give 270 be for disenchanting. even if all 4 shards had been 1350s, that would have a total disenchant value of 1080, and couldnt even buy a 1350 cost champ I dont own.

This is ridiculous and its now going to take ages for people to buy champs they want, especially the expensive ones, unless of course they spend $$$$$$$ on riot points.

This is incredibly weak in my view, rerolls on champ shards should come back, yeah it was random and could stick you with a cheap champ or one you didn't really want, BUT that is far superior to NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY A CHAMP AT ALL with the disenchanted blue essence.

Compared to many I am a fairly new player (only have played for 1 full season), but one thing I enjoyed about the game was finding new champs i like (trying them during free rotation) and potentially saving up for them and trying to master them, and in the old system where you gained IP/game and could reroll champ shards from boxes for a shot at a new champ you wanted it was relatively rewarding, but this new system feels like a ripoff. Played ~ 18 games to level up only to find that I couldnt reroll for a random unowned champ, and since i own all 450 champs, couldnt even buy a new one w/ the disenchanted champ shards just feels really really bad.

I post on these forums a decent bit, and rarely ever make complaint threads but I think this is just egregiously bad. I have 3 close friends who got into the game later in season 7, and i can't help but think how incredibly crappy its going to be for them to save up for the champs they want.

TLDR: Let us reroll champ shards again and/or have more blue essesnce income from different sources because as it stands now it is going to be a ridiculously long grind for anyone who hasn't been playing multiple years to fill out their champ pool.

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Sona Ping1 votes

Read announcements.

Alex h87216 votes

Link? Or you just gonna stick w/ the 2 word reply/downvote?

Alex h87213 votes

Seriously though, you got a link? b/c i looked on the website & on the client and haven't seen anything related to this. But youre probably just some prick trolling anyway who isn't gonna help.

Korkee1 votes

Now I have to level up a dozen times to unlock a new champ? LOL! Rito Pls.

lightemblem1 votes

WELPH, JUST WHEN I REACHED THE 10 CHAMPS UNTIL I GOT THEM ALL MARK, RITO FUCKS ME OVER. every 5-7 games i level up and i can get 1-2 champ shards. im left with the most expensive champs, and with this system it will take me DAYS OF CONSTANT GRINDING to get ONE champion. THIS IS CONSIDERING I WIN MOST OF THE GAMES.

That concludes my anger regarding the change, but then i thought of the money perspective.

Now, think of this from leagues perspective. From the old system, one expensive champion would cost 6300 ip, which considering around a 100 ip per game average not including the win of the day bonus would be 63 games per champion. what we could do then is buy 3 champion shards (1750 * 3) for 5250, and save a bunch of time. this isnt even including the fact that if you get a shard you want, you can just disenchant 2 others to get that champion, and it could be a new 7200 ip champion. so youd be getting a discount.

one 6300 champion from a 10$ card would be around 7 dollars and 6 cents. every 6300 champion you roll for free or earn the ip for it without the discount makes rito lose that much money per champion. this isnt even going into the skin department.

ALSO, THIS ISNT INCLUDING RANDOM SHARDS YOU GET FROM CHESTS. with the rerolling of the shards you get from chests, you could theoretically get champions as you play completely for free regarding if you play well.

Rito is already losing shit tons of money by the hextech crafting in general by even letting the chance of getting free skins/champions EXIST. Remember, this is a company that can only exist with your money. LOL may be free to play, but there are limits to how free a game can be without advertisements.

Aka Phen1 votes

WOO WOOOO all aboard the profit train! Riot may have sold NALCS and fucked up fan favourite teams and turned this into highest bidder wins (Fuck you TL), they may have started making skins more expensive with release of 1350RP above, they may have turned getting new champs into a bigger grind to push Lootbox sales but this is an absolute joke, money hungry fucks. This is where the game starts going downhill and people get bored of your trash because being a billion dollar company wasn't enough

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