Juggernaut updates.

kagepaladin··2 votes·379 views

I would like everyone's honest opinions on the juggernaut changes. me and my friend both each mained a juggernaut, i mained mordekaiser for the past 4-5 years. he has mained garen for the past two. i have sene first hand how strong the new garen/darius is an i've heard skarner was absolutley ridiculous but i have found that morde seems like a shell of his old selfbefore this update even before the one where they made his w castable on a minion and he would still get a buff. i had achieved 3 pentakills one of which being solo on ascension, and my question is if they went and actually asked the community for a good build and made a post and put it on the homepage proving that these champions are still viable they just need to be built right and it's like new poeple join the game and they see a yi jungle and they go play him realising how strong he can be or katarina, leblanc, ashe and riven. my point is soem of these reowrks are completely unneccesarry as long as riot would actually go and make poeple aware that these champions are still viable and still very much playable it's just the current way the game is poeple only play what they know is strong based on what they see in game. so riot thinks that they're not being played that their is something wrong with their kit when their really is not some of these champions just need to be put into the limelight by saying hey why not try out this champion and here is a build that poeple have success with and such, and i know someone is going to say "but what about free week they got put on the homepage their" how many times do people actually mouse over the champions on free week and read in-depth about their abilities. probably very few since most people are excited to get into the game and play with the champions they know. All im asking riot is to take some of the other champs who do not get alot of recognition and say here is a good build the recommended runes and masteries and try out said champion it would be a good idea that should be implemented.

4 Comments

LoLKiru2 votes

Garen is alot closer to balanced than he once was, I'd say he's probably in a pretty okay spot now.

Darius needs a final tweak to his heal then he'll be balanced (I'm with Meddler for changing it into a flat heal + smaller % missing health).

Can't give any opinion on Skarner since I know next to nothing about him (I mean, I know what his kit does; but im not familiar with the intricacies of playing as him).

Mordekaiser just needs a full on rework to ever be balanced.

All balance things aside, I think all the reworks (except Morde's, Dragon ghost is a REALLY neat idea though; would love to see his ghosts expanded upon in his inevitable rework) were pretty well done concept wise.

Big Lincoln2 votes

Darius was hands-down the best designed rework. Despite what people will tell you, he's got more counterplay and he's got less power in favor of high ramping power spikes. He feels rewarding to play and fair to play against.

Mordekaiser.. I don't even know. This was just really dumb and short-sighted, and honestly unfair to us Mord players. The direction they want to push him in as an AD champion is incredibly one-dimensional, and it's especially aggravating when every stat except his base AD got butchered for it.

Skarner is still boring, I don't know how they've managed to do this for.. what, three reworks now? Garen is still one-dimensional, but he somehow manages to be fun once you get rolling.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

imo theyre exactly like they should be.

those champions have basically 2 strengths. damage and defense. theyre supposed to be tanky carries.

they arent like tanks with strong initiate or heavy cc. they cant disrupt and peel. and theyre not like jax, irelia or yasuo who are highly mobile and can get to their desired target much easier and have more room to make plays.

still, pre rework those champions straight up lost in direct duels to much more mobile or utility heavy champs without them actually using their mobility tools. if you want to win against these champs youre supposed to use the full extent of your kit. not just sit in a garen spin and outtrade him with auto attacks.

he feels much slower now than pre rework, but also much more distinct from darius or other fighters. they practically played entirely the same, so you would just pick whoever of the 2 was stronger at the time. now they each have different nieches and different reasons to pick them.

Rozair1 votes

What is darius counterplay exactly. You can't get close to him at all so your forced to pay a ranged champion vs him. There are no ranged top lanes though so you end up playing a mid laner then you lose from not having a tank.

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