Old and new Shen taunt

AkabaneKun··4 votes·1,310 views

Old:

RANGE: 600 COST: 100 / 95 / 90 / 85 / 80 energy COOLDOWN: 16 / 14 / 12 / 10 / 8

Active: Shen dashes in the target direction, dealing magic damage to all enemy champions he hits, taunting them for 1.5 seconds and restoring 40 energy per target hit.

Taunted opponents deal half damage to Shen with their basic attacks

New:

RANGE: 600 COST: 180 energy COOLDOWN: 18 / 16 / 14 / 12 / 10

Active: Shen dashes in the target direction, dealing physical damage to all enemy champions he hits and taunting them for 1.5 seconds.

Secret passive to replace old passive: Whenever Shen casts shadow rush he stand unites half of his body, effectively reducing this ability hitbox in half, this helps separate the good Shen's from the bad Shen's.

10 Comments

allsin033 votes

the old shen taunt lowered the enemies attack dmg by half. this new one does nothing. shields are great but the old shen's e was the truth. riot needs to bring his old taunt if you want this guy to be in the meta

EstebanElGuapo1 votes

I agree. you taunt a full (toplane melee ad) ad carry in lane now and you are not benefiting in that circumstance. I just made an auto attack champ who wants to auto attack me auto attack me at full dmg but at least I did him the favor of getting closer; assuming that he can stand toe to toe. And a good many can. You can cast W but its not as useful as it would seem on paper. The few times faced fiora. Casting W got me killed.

It take to long to explain but short long :P version is she too mobile and it too short and W costs Q-W energy and she can prevent your active energy recapture on Q's by zoning you off the wave then dive you under the turret now that you don't have energy to taunt; cause new shen's active energy recoup costs a Q cast and you got nothing to target when aggressively denied minions and possibly don't even have the amount of energy required to cast Q anymore anyway even if you now have minions under ur turret to target. Hard to explain but maybe you can picture the situation. W sucks against some of these agressive melee's partly due to the cost of casting Q&W everytime U need to Cast just W together with having to hit minions to get energy back when possibly you cannot due to the zoning.

P.S. old shen active energy recapture had no costs u just auto anything when passive is up. but even though part of the issue could be same in that you could be zoned. the overall situation isn't the same cause old shen energy passive regen rate was effectively double that of current shen. Same number but against 2 x the cast cost and pool size for new shen vs old shen. Old shen passive regen rate and 0 cost on the active energy recapture prevents this method of screwin u over.

And A Real Hiero1 votes

Old taunt had a better effect, lower cooldown and lower cost. It was also more forgiving if you missed.

WolfChases2 votes

And than you realize that the only good thing about new Shen is his Q and his model. I agree that old Shen's Q wasn't anything special but at least it was his Ranged Spell. Now he's all melee type of tank without anything but his retarded taunt.

Paroe1 votes

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And than you realize that the only good thing about new Shen is his Q and his model. I agree that old Shen's Q wasn't anything special but at least it was his Ranged Spell. Now he's all melee type of tank without anything but his retarded taunt.

Newsflash; hes not a tank anymore.

They reworked shen from an ultramarine into a spacewolf.

NoPaxt1 votes

News Flash his only listed role is TANK.

Paroe1 votes

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News Flash his only listed role is TANK.

News flash columbo; riot rarely changes tags when a champion is reworked.

Its EXTREMELY clear from the nerfs to armor and the new QW passive that shen is meant to be a fighter and not an ultratank.

WolfChases1 votes

Agree but why should you build him like a fighter if you can go full tank with Dewourer and be able to duel like a fighter? There's no point. His whole kit is based on protecting and peeling so he is a tank by nature. I can play Lee Sin and build him full TANK and I'll be tanky as hell but in fact, Lee isn't a tank.

HorusEye1 votes

Alistar was once labeled to be only Tank role, until people bring him top lane & builds AP bursts, so yea.

WolfChases1 votes

Dude, in that case there are no tanks in this game since you can also build Braum full AD lol. Shen is a TANK and that's the role that suits him the best. Ofc, you can build him like a bruiser but you have to be fed as heck to be relevant, ther than that you'll just be all melee squish. Oce you miss that taunt (which isn't hard to miss) you are screwed :D

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