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Welp RIP ancient coin

Rinky Dinky··3 votes·639 views
7/8 PBE Update

It's gonna be trash compared to item 3098 after this change goes through:

Frost Queen's Claim item 3092 +15 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds

Frostfang item 3098 +15 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds Spells and basic attacks against champions or buildings deal 10 (down from 15) additional damage and grant 12 Gold (up from 10)

Spellthief's Edge item 3303 +10 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds

Sorry but looking at that, coin is totally outclassed now. I don't even think the health it gives, or even the active are worth losing out on so much gold.

I would think even champs like Soraka Janna and Bard would take this over item 3301.

I mean, you don't even need to benefit from the onhit gold passive for this to be better than coin anymore.

Like, its a buff to all my supports so I don't wanna complain, but why get coin over spellthiefs now?

The hp vamp from dead minions? I don't think that is worth losing out on so much gold.

I hope item 3301 will be recieving buffs along this path as well. Else it will be outclassed completely again.

8 Comments

Abyssphere2 votes

There's no way those changes go through. They're clearly unintended/have been put out incorrectly. You don't just make an item 8x more effective than it once was and leave it at that.

Rinky Dinky1 votes

Its been on pbe for 2 days so far, no updates or statements changing.

Bugs/mistakes are usually fixed within a day.

I am... concerned but very pleased. This is only a buff for my support champion pool lmfao

Pretty Dhizi1 votes

Sadly, Bard is already better with Frost queens claim. He can activate 2-3 ticks from it with one auto-attack that strikes within the AoE cone it makes later on from meep collection..It allows him to do some damage and pressure more (let alone grant more mana regen for more healing, and other spells) than he ever could with the coin. The only benefit the coin brings now is the Tier-3 movement speed buff from its top of line upgrade path. Even then, the frost-AoE shot is a lot more useful than the coin speed buff for the bard, allowing him to line up a good Stunning Q, or well-placed ultimate.

Spellthiefs has been tied in dominance with the Targons since they showed up. Coin has always been the lesser, weaker choice sadly. If anything, the buffs here are stupid, and the COIN needed the buff. The coin doesn't nearly give as much gold as the other two. Not even two coins can equal up to ONE spelltheif.

Cindikle1 votes

I think the idea is that Coin comes with the better utility in most cases. And is the safer choice.

Shields and slows are not hard to come by. But a full team large speed boost isn't something you'll find as easily. 3 champions I think? Two of those require an ultimate.

If Coin comes too close to the other two then it will easily out shine them.

I'm sure these changes wont go through. It's just asking for players to abuse it. It's likely a typo.

Rinky Dinky1 votes

It's been on PBE for 2 days now. No statements or changes.

Cindikle1 votes

Has it? S@20 is showing it as today's change.

Stellafreyja1 votes

Riot has said that they don't want support items to be so good that non-support laners start taking them...If I were an AP mid laner, Spellthief sounds like a very good option to start with now...

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