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PSA: When Giving a leash please pay attention.

SH Azykan·3/9/2016, 9:36:44 PM·63 votes·5,899 views

I legit just had a game where I was 100% worthless because of a teammate not paying attention when giving a leash...

I was Lee sin, running scaling armor seals because I intended to have a bot lane leash this game. And yeah I got a leash, but Thresh was too busy watching our top laner and he ended up actually stealing gromp in a panic when i pinged him off. Couldn't do my full first clear, invade, early gank or anything because I was screwed by that start. I had to recall still level 2...and then the enemy pantheon jungle is ganking all the lanes "dude why are you so bad at lee sin" Seriously?

Then as the game goes on, I am finally at a point where I can feel relevant, and the draven wants to fight a 2v4 and dies..."dude do I have to engage, we could have killed them easy" I have 3 items at 30 minutes...item 3812 item 3143 item 3156 no I am not engaging on an Illaoi Ekko Pantheon and Lux.

Thankfully our singed applied so much map pressure that we basically won while feeding kills (remember objectives > KDA) But just as a courtesy, please pay attention when leashing and for heavens sake no leash is better than blatantly taking the camp. ESPECIALLY if you have an early game ganking jungler like Lee Sin who has a relatively crappy 1st clear speed as is.

EDIT:

Okay Everyone seems to be hyper focused on the fact I ran scaling armor runes on Lee Sin. NO THIS WAS NOT THE POINT OF THIS THREAD. Yes I know that they are slightly less efficient early But I was already aware of this and actively made that choice because in any normal scenario it isnt an issue. I did not choose to be screwed out of the experience of my first camp, that was the larger problem. I did not get to put a point in my W to sustain back up on wolves. I got put behind.

If I was jungling someone like Evelynn, this wouldnt even be the thing people look at. The point is that people need to pay attention as to not put their jungler at any easily avoidable disadvantage at the start...not to grill me on my choice to play lee sin or that you are clearly better than me because you can jungle him with no runes (so can I...if my camps don't get stolen).

Jesus you all nitpick the stupidest crap in a post and ignore what the post is trying to address.

124 Comments

Borkahn3/9/2016, 9:40:08 PM30 votes

Get ready for downvotes here, nobody cares about what we junglers have to say. They will feed 3 times before 5 minutes diving the enemies turrets and still say it was our fault.

Morsigil3/10/2016, 3:51:33 PM8 votes

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I legit just had a game where I was 100% worthless because of a teammate not paying attention when giving a leash...

Jesus you all nitpick the stupidest crap in a post and ignore what the post is trying to address.

Nobody is 100% worthless because they didn't get 1 CS at the very start of the game. That is in your head. You tilted because you were mad about that and because your teammates were giving you shit because Panth was being more active and rather than adapt they just decided to complain. Kind of like what you did. [slayer-jinx-catface]

dangopee3/9/2016, 9:51:53 PM7 votes

I think the jungle clear difficulty curve is still way too steep. Way too hard early to where a small mistake like a bad leash can ruin a whole game.

Linna Excel3/9/2016, 11:55:20 PM4 votes

So steal 1 camp from a lee player at the beginning and win the game. Got it.

alfavhunter3/10/2016, 3:19:35 PM4 votes

I've accidentally taken and seen others take jungler first camp, I will always give a second leash to compensate

People don't realize how much messing up that first camp screws a jungler up

Van Darkholme3/9/2016, 11:22:17 PM3 votes

Jhin FOUR IT?

Darkwind3/9/2016, 10:34:21 PM2 votes

Recommendation: Always take a minimum of 9 flat armor on junglers. No exceptions. Your choice where you take it; you could take armor quints or marks on some junglers, but with Lee Sin this decision is easy.

Yes, Thresh made a horrible mistake. But you should always have flat armor seals, especially on Lee Sin, because earlygame is pretty much everything for him.

Spaceman5pff3/10/2016, 2:11:37 AM1 votes

Fellow Jungle main here.

Lee Sin can clear with no armor runes at all. I have done it. You don't have armor / level runes to blame, friend

Bears Dont Care3/9/2016, 11:43:20 PM1 votes

As a Lee Sin, you should not have had to recall at level 2 through intelligent usage of your W. There are champions that are ruined by a lost gromp and must recall such as Evelyn, but Lee Sin's lifesteal/spell steal provides him enough that you have cleared the jungle . Albeit with more difficulty but it can be done.

I do agree, however, that the Thresh could have paid attention better and not taken your gromp. It should not, however, make you useless especially as Lee Sin