Revert The Trinity Force Change

Doaenel··10 votes·1,501 views

For those unaware, this used to be the old Trinity Force's stats

+250 Health +250 Mana +25 Attack Damage +15% Attack Speed +10% Cooldown Reduction +20% Critical Strike Chance +5% Movement Speed

It used to be a great item, however extremely niche because of the critical strike chance, meaning champions that use ability empowered autos would rarely buy this item unless they were ahead. When patch 6.11 came around, Trinity Force was changed to what it is now

+250 Health +250 Mana +25 Attack Damage +40% Attack Speed +20% Cooldown Reduction +5% Movement Speed

The crit was removed, cdr increased by 10%, and attack speed increased by 25%. This meant that that champions who usually would not buy this item due to them not synergizing very well with it, would now excel with this item. The attack speed buff meant better trades, as well as the cooldown reduction increase making it so champions like Hecarim and Nasus would really enjoy buying this item. However there is a problem. This item was very good, so champions like Ekko and Fizz started using it. Their on-hit damage along with the cooldown reduction and attack speed made it so that out trading these champions is almost impossible, as they attack multiple times for a lot of damage and can run away with their low cd abilities and phage.

Hecarim was never ''busted'' before the Tri rework, it was after it that he started to get more attention, same with Bruiser Ekko and Bruiser Fizz and even Bruiser Yasuo, and Nasus, the change made these champions with these items overbearing.

I'd like Riot to consider reverting the Trinity force change

19 Comments

Salron8 votes

Gangplank YES GIVE ME THAT CRIT

Eternal Torment3 votes

actually no, trinity force in the past was still Build by the same champions, Nasus jax irelia corki hecarim ezreal and gp as you know them mostly. The change they did complimented irelia jax and Nasus and allowed champions like Hecarim and Nasus to exceed and in it's early stages was ridiculously strong on jax, however gp and corki received slight nerfs respectively because they lost the crits for them. Ezreal never really Build crits because his Q never critted to begin with so he is more or less a neutral zone.

BUT all These champions used to Build it back then exactly as they Build it now, the only difference is gp and corki needed buffs to compensate for the lost crits, causing the birth of full ad gp, tankplank and ap corki mid. What you maybe forgot to mention is they also changed the Build so it would compensate for the new stats and they removed zeal from the Build tree and instead set in a stinger. and then they made the Price change so when you have the 3 major Build path items sheen, phage and stinger you Need to pay the 333 gold because trindy force, 3 items, 3 purchases and illuminati >_>

all in all, the changes they did to triforce didnt impact the game much and honestly there hasnt been even remotely as much complains as there was initially guessed for an entire Season's duration now, so i do not see riot reverting the changes anytime soon unless something happened that would break this item so much they had no other choice, but knowing riot they rather nerf it 3-4 times before making some actual changes assuming all the nerfs would still not tone it down at all.

Sire Hippington3 votes

If you want the OLD trinity stats:

250 hp 250 mana 30 ad 30% as 30 ap 15% crit ~12%ms (150% base ad spellblade)

Now that 1 would like

And hecarim certainly was busted at times befor the trinity rework, and crit trinity was certainly stronger on yasuo as the current one.... Neither the current nor the crit trinity are very balanced, they just breake different kind of champions. Corki and GP were disgusting with the old one, so was yasuo, and dieing to Irelia(or any other trinity bruiser) just cause she got lucky on the RNG with her low crit was pure bullshit entierly.

hi im bannned2 votes

Yasuo and Gangplank will make a return though. I'm not sure if it's that worth it.

Ralanr2 votes

Yasuo didn't build it before.

Salron2 votes

ya he did what are u smoking bro

AstroFerrari 2 votes

No Yasuo really didn't build it before. In fact Yasuo was only building it when that tank bruiser build was still popular. Then they nerfed the way the bonus armor pen worked on his ult.

Death by Glamour2 votes

They built it for the ridiculous damage on his q

doodlebob6661 votes

tank fizz/ekko(they were litterally building full tank with sunfire and iceborn) and bruiser yasuo were a thing with the old triforce there, in fact bruiser yasuo would run triforce phantom dancer into tank with the old triforce. It also was a contradiction of an item, with the crit being a stat that scales well with building towards late game damage, while the sheen proc alone made the item a massive single item power spike, warping the power curve of the late game champs who bought it. The current iteration is, atleast in my opinion, over tuned but it also is now a key item in bruiser builds, replacing the damage loss after most of them had to give up on rageblade.

As for hecarim he probably would have been op anyways, since he can clear the jungle rediculously well in season 7, the ghost buffs made him way stronger, and he had received buffs before the triforce change

junglerboy161 votes

You have no idea, what we have now is nothing compared to the OG trinity force from before they put CDR on it. It gave AP and was actually a hybrid item like it should be.

Current item is weak shit compared to what it used to be.

Doaenel3 votes

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You have no idea, what we have now is nothing compared to the OG trinity force from before they put CDR on it. It gave AP and was actually a hybrid item like it should be.

Current item is weak shit compared to what it used to be.

They serve different purposes, not necessarily weak.

Unpaladin1 votes

The 20% Crit Chance was quite underappreciated Gangplank and Ezreal want their crit back, even though it absolutely doesn't hold a candle to the +25 AS and 10% CDR iteration. The new version has the striking features of a monster item that's asking to be used on a new fotm champion every week when it kicks off. Thankfully it hasn't really.

Let's hope Riot considers this at least should a fotm muh-bruiser chumpion meta rear its ugly head, that train of thought could go somewhere.

Elkington VI1 votes

As a Trundle player, I have no problem with Fizz and Ekko building tanky, as it actually makes it much easier to kill them. However, pls no changes to Trinity right now. It would just be another nerf that Trundle doesn't need. The CDR really helps round out my early- mid game build.

A Bad Nasus1 votes

I loved the crit on the old trinity for Nasus , but I think I'll have withdrawal symptoms from the extra cooldown reduction.

So no don't revert :{

The Sword Saint1 votes

New trinity is actually useful for the champs it was meant for instead of being the ad version of majeis.

RainXBlade1 votes

Do you want item 3046 and item 3078 Yasuo to come back to the meta? Because even as a Yasuo main, getting 100% crit with just these 2 items and still have the ability to build tank and deal good damage even w/o IE was pretty obnoxious, even for me.

LadyRenly1 votes

old new triforce was terrible, it was oriented towards adc

Quepha1 votes

go true oldschool and put the AP back on it

ProfDrDeath1 votes

I honestly want them to change Triforce so it is closer to its original incarnation, but not back to that one, either - that one had its own set of problems.

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