For the mechanical skill put in Garen gets too much.

Weiner the Pooh·Nov 24, 2015·2 votes·1,073 views

He gets rewarded far too much for such little effort. its honestly disgusting.

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The Bearded BardNov 24, 20152 votes

I'd definitely say Garen is easier than WW. WW at least has heavy mana costs and has to manage his E. If you just keep his E on all the time, you'll give yourself away. Plus, despite his ult being incredibly easy to use, he can still be cc'ed out of it pretty easily.

Garen's kit is just so ridiculously brain dead. Just got done fighting and you've taken a bit of damage? No worries, just chill back and last hit til your health regens. It's not like your melee opponent can do anything to stop your passive without getting full combo'd by you. Press Q to run fast, get rid of all slows, get extra damage, and silence all those pesky spellslingers. Taking a lot of damage? PRESS W. Your finger getting tired of right clicking? PRESS E. Don't know who to ult? OH LOOK A HANDY LITTLE PICTURE OF THE PERSON I SHOULD ULT RIGHT ABOVE MY HEAD.

JamareeNov 24, 20151 votes

Fun Fact: If you aren't villain and are near so much as one minions, Garen's overall DPS is down compared to last rework.

Weiner the PoohNov 24, 20151 votes

so? he still gets so much for literally being the easiest champion.

what you deserveNov 24, 20151 votes

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so? he still gets so much for literally being the easiest champion.

I thought Warwick was the easiest champion.

JamareeNov 24, 20151 votes

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so? he still gets so much for literally being the easiest champion.

I think Warwick is easier personally, and hell, at least you can kite Garen. When a fed Warwick is coming at you, your counterplay is have an item that might not be fully optimal in your build/against their team, Garen, you can still kite.

Weiner the PoohNov 24, 20151 votes

oh yes im just gonna kite garen as a melee, gj!

JamareeNov 24, 20151 votes

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oh yes im just gonna kite garen as a melee, gj!

You mean...some melee champions are strong against other melee champions? WHAT A TWIST!!!

Sona PingNov 24, 20151 votes

So? Why should the number of buttons you have to press have any relation to champion output and thus viability? League performance is about knowledge, judgement, decision making and ability to operate effectively in a dynamic environment anyway.

P.S. All champion are easy to play. All of them. ...except maybe Cassiopeia. Maybe.

Weiner the PoohNov 24, 20151 votes

Garen seriously works as easy q at them then e, if they hit back use w, then when there low press r and walk away. He has no meaning ful descisions to make, it's not as if he's squishy so if he fucks up he's still extremely tanky, his r is an execute meaning he doesn't have to build damage and his q and e scale with his base ad meaning he still doesn't have to build damage items to do dmg. He's god awful annoying and his silence makes no sense to have, talon had his removed as did cass and LB so why does he keep his?

At least most other champs require mechanics he doesn't at all, in the slightest.

NemeBroNov 24, 20151 votes

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Garen seriously works as easy q at them then e, if they hit back use w, then when there low press r and walk away. He has no meaning ful descisions to make, it's not as if he's squishy so if he fucks up he's still extremely tanky, his r is an execute meaning he doesn't have to build damage and his q and e scale with his base ad meaning he still doesn't have to build damage items to do dmg. He's god awful annoying and his silence makes no sense to have, talon had his removed as did cass and LB so why does he keep his?

At least most other champs require mechanics he doesn't at all, in the slightest.

Garen can't blink on top of you like LB, Kass, and Talon could.

Garen is strong in lane, but team reliant in team fights. Or, reliant upon dumb motherfuckers who don't know how to peel a Garen.

RogueWillNov 24, 20151 votes

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so? he still gets so much for literally being the easiest champion.

If you got caught on garen full combo chances are your positioning was bad. He only have a mildly speed boost to catch you, complaining about garen is like complaining about volibear, they are basically have the same kit

lee350852302Nov 24, 20151 votes

im pretty sure garen starts doing more damage (even by minions) at about level 11

and alot more at level 18. and if not by minions he does about 50% more E damage at level 18

pretty crazy but that also means garen is super weak and easy to slay before level 11

Only Play DariusNov 24, 20151 votes

You really want to make a point for a braindead champion with no skill floor being too overbearing you're probably better off making a case for DrMundo

vivjan30Nov 24, 20151 votes

Garen : Hi guys, garen here and garen takes SO MUCH SKILL TO PLAY. Clicking a mouse is SO HARD so for these reasons I would like to buff garen to make his q stun for 5 seconds. Thx guys #RIGHTCLICKINGISHARD