@Riot Will Fiora, Shen and Miss Fortune ever get recalls?

Weiner the Pooh·May 18, 2016·23 votes·1,218 views

Or does it take too much time from giving all your new champs 30+ animations? Like would it really take that much time to give them a recall? They were all updated, all with new models (and two kit updates), so why do they not get a recall animation? For one it seems incomplete, you can't just change the models and not even finish it. And two it seems rather unfair, all these new champs and skins get recalls when why cant they even though they've been reworked? It makes zero sense.

8 Comments

Chase Me DaddyMay 18, 20162 votes

The problem is that these are light VU's. Very light like Kassadin/Alistar. And these updates are more focused about gameplay and pushing them out as soon and good as possible. Riot ignores stuff like new particles, new animations or new voiceover to mainly focus on gameplay. Some projects like Taric, Poppy or Sion are something comepletely different. They kill the old champion and basicly say "We take a lil aspect of gameplay and visuals with us that fans love and create a complete new champion with it.". This is basicly like releasing a new champion because these updates are much larger scope than Fiora, MF and Shen were. You are right Riot could take their time to even give small scope updates recalls, but their goal (which we can't change) is to release these low scope updates as soon and healthy as possible, just to keep them consistant.

There are basicly 4 types of updates ATM.

Class Updates (No VU's just gameplay updates focused on classes. Juggernauts, Vanguards, Mages etc.)
Light VGU (Main focus on gameplay, small VU to fit the overhaul theme of the game.)
VGU (New model, new gameplay, new animations but overall not too much theme changes (even though the visuals will change quite a bit).)
Relaunch (Everything gets a overhaul and sometimes everything needs to go in order to achieve healthy gameplay and cool champion design)

Well and as said recalls come only with VGU's and Relaunches. As example all 3 champions that will still get reworked this year will most likely get recalls and animations as they are a much larger scope and have a lot more problems than champions like Shen or Fiora had. Ryze will be a VGU (GP/Trist level), Yorick will be a Relaunch (Poppy, Taric and Sion level) and Warwick will also be a Relaunch (Poppy, Taric and Sion level). We can't really change the decision of riot to not give recalls to Light VGU's, but we should be grateful that some champions do even get updates as other ones still cry in a dark corner of overnerfed old champions ( Evelynn Galio Nunu Urgot ).

Weiner the PoohMay 18, 20161 votes

No, Fiora and MF were given entirely new models, and ive seen the work of them making the models brand new(its on IronShits art station) there is zero reason for them to not have one. And no i will not be grateful they even got updates because quite frankly they are not impressive. Also, why do shitty ass skins like that new Mundo one get a recall on a fucking skin, a shitty one i might add, yet they cant even get recalls, also i go back to my previous statement as all these new champs have 30+ animations, how fucking hard is it to give 3 character 1 additional one? Its not like it requires that much effort, its just laziness, laziness Riot cant admit.

GreenLoreMay 18, 20163 votes

Thats exactly what he meant with "light VU". A light VU changes the model of the champ,but doesn't add a new set of animations and instead reuses most of the old animations.

And the answer to your question is "it costs time to make those". If the champion update team spends time on making new animations for old champs,then they can't spend time for updating the current projects. They'll get back to these champs eventually,but for now they focus their efforts on their current projects(currently Ryze,Yorick and Warwick) simply because these are in dire need of a VU(and new animations) as well.

MelledoneusMay 18, 20162 votes

I found it weird how Shen got a whole, brand new set of animations, but they gave him everything except a recall. I dunno, that just seems a bit much.

Ebonmaw DragonMay 18, 20161 votes

I think that riot should re-use the animation for capture, of Dominion, for the old champs that dont have a recall animation, just like Kha does.

Weiner the PoohMay 18, 20162 votes

They should give them something. I find it stupid they cant even give those champs a recall even tho they were updated yet they can give Taliyah and Aurelion Sol and Fucking Poppy 30+ animations (I know because i counted).

MelledoneusMay 18, 20161 votes

But those channel animations are used for breaking Rek'sai tunnels. THEY ARE SO CRUCIAL.