OK, so we already know how much we HATE Zed and how much we want Shen to be better in lane, so here's my idea:
What would happen if we made Shen's passive like Zed's, where it could be procced on multiple targets, but only once every few seconds? (but without the low health requirement)
What do you guys think? Good/Bad idea?
Shahamut2 votesI think Ki-Strike needs to be an active auto-attack reset. (Move it to W) and he should get a different passive.
Honestly, I think his kit needs overhauled, but thats just me.
TonyTonyMordecai1 votesYeah, same. I was just wondering since it seemed like a good idea, but I mostly forgot about what Shen does due to playing other champs, and wanting to improve before I went back to Shen. Hopefully Riot gets around to updating Shen with buffs/gameplay update
Shahamut2 votesHere are my thoughts: Increase MS to 345, gains MR per level, small boost to HP/HP per level.
Passive:Feint
Shen is a ninja, and is thus a difficult target to pin down in a fight. His quick reactions and movements and keen senses allow him to roll with the punches and avoid damage.
Shen takes 6/8/10% less damage from basic attacks (levels 1/6/11) and Area of Effect Skills. After taking damage from 10/9/8 such attacks (levels 1/6/11) Shen gains stealth and the ability to move through units for 2 seconds. Activating a skill or attacking breaks this effect immediately.
Passive: Shadow Strike
After Shen enters stealth, his next attack within 5 seconds deals dmg to all nearby enemies (range: 250?), slowing them by 50% for 2.5 seconds.
Thoughts: This new passive allows for Shen to remain tanky, while also having the ability to reposition in combat. It rewards him with "ninja flare" for doing his job, being the front line and protecting his allies.
Q: Vorpal Blade_____Cost: 50 Energy________Cooldown: 8 seconds
Shen throws one of his swords in a straight line (Im thinking 600 range) that deals 80/120/160/200/240 (+50% Bonus AD)(+30%AP) magic damage to the first target hit, marking them and revealing them to Shen for 5 seconds. While marked Shen may reactivate this skill to cast Retrieval.
Q: Retrieval_______Cost: 25 Energy (Q's cooldown starts after this is cast, or the target is no longer marked)
Shen appears behind his target and rips the Vorpal Blade from them, dealing magic damage equal to 6/7/8/9/10% of the targets max health and healing Shen for the same.
The vorpal blade drinks the life of its targets and returns it to its weilder
THOUGHTS: This makes the skill more dynamic and fun to use. Grants him some fun uses, potential engage, escape, and feels ninja like when you just appear behind him. It gives him some decent sustain, but not over bearing and not as constant.
W: Ki-Strike_____ Cost: None____________Cooldown: 10/9.5/9/8.5/8 seconds
Shen's next basic attack deals bonus magic damage equal to 50% AD plus 10% Shen's bonus health. Hitting an enemy champion will restore 20 energy. Basic attacks against non-structures reduce the cooldown of this ability by 1 second, doubled vs Champions. If used in conjunction with Shadow Strike, the duration and power of the slow is increase to 65% for 3.25 seconds. Hitting multiple enemy champions does not restore more energy.
THOUGHTS: As an auto-attack reset, this should increase Shen's dueling power, as he can save his Ki-Strikes for the right moments. He can use it immediately for 1v1 dmg output, or save it for when his passive stealth procs to try and get a bigger slow on targets.
E: Shadow Dash________Cost: 120/110/100/90/80
Shen dashes a short distance (450) and deals 50/80/110/140/170(+60%AP) magic damage to all enemies he hits. Hitting enemy champions refunds 50% of the energy and taunts them for 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 seconds. While taunted, enemy champions must auto-attack Shen and Shen takes 50% reduced damage from them (DR applies to auto attacks only). Hitting multiple enemy champions does not refund more energy. The distance Shen dashes is increased by 50% of his bonus movement speed.
THOUGHTS: Ghost synergy anyone? :P Mobility tank is what I like here. Running from a ninja should be difficult.
R:Eye of Twilight/Shadow Protector
Passive: Eye of Twilight: Whenever Shen is stealthed (via his passive) he reveals invisible/stealthed units and traps within 500/550/600 range.
ACTIVE: Shadow Protector: Shen enters the realm of shadows, becoming untargetable and granting a shield to nearby allies (1000 range) equal to 10% of his max HP for up to 5 seconds. While he remains in the shadows, shielded allies can see invisible/stealthed units and traps within 300 range of themselves. The first time an allies Shield is broken, Shen leaves the shadows and appears next to ally.
THOUGHTS: This new ultimate would keep Shen as a team fight protector. The rest of his skills would still make him an effective split pusher, but doing so means his ult has less use. If Shen is supposed to be a ninja tank/protector, he should need to be with his team to do so. Split pushing should have a trade off.
what you think?
TonyTonyMordecai1 votesThis actually seems cool to use... Nice job!
Shahamut1 votesLeave a comment on my thread! And TY!
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/RIEzxEfa-my-thoughts-on-a-shen-rework
SyrupNWaffles2 votesI personally think Shen is fine the way he is, as someone who goes top lane with Shen (And once went as support :P) I think he is perfectly fine the way he is. His passive allows last hitting much easier and the vorpal blade is a very good poke tool. Because I go AP, I get Nashors and Liandrys, which are both good items for his passive. I mean, attack speed with AP and health? Awesome! All of his abilities scale with AP (with the exception of his passive) so I find it better to go AP tank rather than just pure tank.
I'm able to shut down late game champs such as Riven (Last game was Fiora) by simply targeting them with Q and constantly poking them. I personally find Shen easy in lane because he has the sustain and the poke with a low cooldown.
The5lacker1 votesConsidering it's based on Shen's stats, not his target's, restores energy, and is already reduced in cooldown on-hit...no?
TonyTonyMordecai1 votesOk. Just asking. Haven't played shen in a while, so i forgot :D Thanks for the input