Don't nerf guinsoos, Yi already has double strike at 3rd AA. Its 3100 gold for a reason.stop no cc.

UrFieryDoom··3 votes·1,710 views

Nerf Vaynes kit cause it has nothing to do with guinsoos being op. Vayne killed me with botrk only, recently isn't that nerfed? Fact check she just needs attack speed any attack speed. For yi guinsoos is fine as his whole kit is for dueling and skirmishing but vayne is a marksmen but she can't be gapclosed on realistically! So i say leave luke skywalker alone, I mained him for 2 seasons please don't ruin his design.

I hope you care for what you are doing and how it will affect a champ. Fact is we dont you to ruin a champ on purpose then propose us as LAB ASSISTANTS and after 3 patches realize from data yi was really weak from these changes and buff it back. No, we don't need that non sense torture sessions. Just leave him alone, luke skywalker doesn't need to die.

MasterYi is the best 1v1 dueling high risk champion with guinsoos a core item nerfing it is not a good thing to do. He needs its effect to get his passive faster.

Vayne Doesn't neccessarily need guinsoos but it just kind of helps her w but she can build botrk and runaans or just regular crit but yi is high risk and melee so he wouldn't. Plus Vayne can even abuse spear of shojin to infinitely Q so I don't think any items are to blame for Vayne's frustrating abilities.

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Moonscourge10 votes

No Vayne goes Spear. Also Yi isn't high risk. He's been well above 50% winrate in high elo for ages now and his 1v1's are usually facerolls, not difficult for him.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

Oh you mean funneling? Can't anybody do that? Thats why he appears op because funneling yi's make his winrate higher.

If enemy picks all 5 people that pose no threat to Yi then is that because Yi is broken? He has the right to 1v1 soraka jungle if thats the jungler because they made that choice.

boricCentaur11 votes

Ummm yi is not good in high elo he has a very low play rate which leads to a high winrate like I don't you understand statistics.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

This guinsoos nerf would destroy ON- hit on master yi forever. This isn't a nerf, its a clear removal. He only gets E for 5 seconds and this new phantom hit is every 3 which is his normal passive(his passive double strike is the new guinsoos). SO WHATS SO SPECIAL ABOUT THIS USELESS 3100 GOLD ITEM NOW? His DPS WILL NOT BE CHANGED MUCH BY GUINSOOS BECAUSE ITS EVERY 3 AUTOS PLUS LESS ATTACK SPEED ON ULT AND E NERF DAMAGE.

Frustrating when riot nerfs this many stuff on easy beginner type champions lmao

boricCentaur11 votes

There nerfing him since low elo refused to learn the game. The sad thing is this probably won't stop the complaints.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

Yea in low elo I can play Jax usually to counterpick and if the Yi is low elo he will probably be losing to Jax. Jax Shen Malzahar Tryndamere Leona Rammus Lulu Katarina Veigar Yasuo Udyr

JuiceBoxP3 votes

There are literally tens of videos on high elo games where master yi was doing 1vs5 and getting a penta kill. You are literally talking nonsense.

boricCentaur12 votes

You can find videos of almost every champion 1v5 in high elo your argument is a joke.

Like give a real reason and not bs pls.

JuiceBoxP2 votes

"Nerfing him because low elo refuses to learn the game"

Perfectly good arguement for your shitpost

boricCentaur11 votes

Well it's true if it was not he would be good in high elo but he is not, riot even said that goal of the changes was to make him better in high elo and worst in low elo.

JuiceBoxP2 votes

We'll have to just sit tight and watch how this affects him before going on the boards, yelling about it before it even hit live.

boricCentaur11 votes

All my point was is that yi sucks in high elo what does that have to do with his changes?

JuiceBoxP1 votes

My point is that at his current state he is FAR from bad at high elo. Yeah, he might not be meta but he is not BAD. There are definitely much WORSE picks than him if he can 1vs5 in pro play.

Fact is he just destroys low elo games. Pro play they can manage him more often than not, but he is definitely not BAD.

boricCentaur11 votes

There wtf is your problem I never said he was bad I think he is mediocre.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

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There wtf is your problem I never said he was bad I think he is mediocre.

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All my point was is that yi sucks in high elo what does that have to do with his changes?

Are you high? You must be high, No sober person can say two contradictions within such a small time difference.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

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Frustrating when riot nerfs this many stuff on easy beginner type champions lmao

Easy beginner type champions that can 1vs5 your team with 3 items... yeah....

Timethief494 votes

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Ummm yi is not good in high elo he has a very low play rate which leads to a high winrate like I don't you understand statistics.

Low play rate leads to high winrate? Yi has a 50.52% winrate at a 5.14% playrate. Mordekaiser has a 49.38% winrate with a 0.58% playrate. His playrate is almost a tenth of yi´s, but his winrate is still lower.

boricCentaur11 votes

Well yeah its true maybe pick two similar champions! Are you going to say that nunu is broken? or vi or ivern since they all have higher winrates then yi or wait your not since you actually don't care you just want a reason to hate yi.

Timethief493 votes

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Well yeah its true maybe pick two similar champions! Are you going to say that nunu is broken? or vi or ivern since they all have higher winrates then yi or wait your not since you actually don't care you just want a reason to hate yi.

Similar champs`? Sure, tryndamere, 1.14% playrate 49.66% winrate. Udyr 1.14% playrate 50.59% winrate. both like a fifth of yis playrate with the same or lower winrate.

boricCentaur11 votes

Tryn is not a jg and udyr us terrible. AGAIN ARE NUNU, VI AND OTHERS BROKE SINCE THEY HAVE HIGHER WINRATES IM STILL WAITING.

Also again there is a strategy that involves yi is his winrate is also misleading since the strategy inflates it.

It most be fun to ignore facts.

Silly Neeko6 votes

Yi has been a major offender of on hit since before guinsoos. Even with Wrigles Lantern and Sated Devourer.... he didnt need guinsoos then.

Same as Vayne, though with her it was never the on hit except guinsoos now. She only uses that for her W.... which is strong later on, but honestly lets be real here. Unless fighting full tanks and build tons of hp.... most of her damage is her physical damage with her Q etc. Even with the proc every 2 hits instead of 3. Plus the armor ignore is nice with resist ignore for if she gets shiv or RFC.

UrFieryDoom2 votes

Riot are you trying to kill an entire build for Yi? On hit will die from this change!

I get neeko being dumb in the past but you changed her W! Yi IS an on hit champion, you will destroy on hit Yi!

Ragnaveil2 votes

Oh boo hoo, what are you poor mains gonna do if that build dies? -Looks at Alpha Strike's interaction with crit-

Tahminatrix 2 votes

I like how the poll tries to be biased "For True YI Mains"

We understand you know your champion the most, but we know what its like to lose/die to it even more.

UrFieryDoom1 votes

Anybody who considers making guinsoos useless for Yi and halving his DPS is on something very serious and you should NOT trust them for balancing. I main Yi for years and I know he has weaknesses. ffs

UrFieryDoom1 votes

Those 3 are the reason why the game is so terrible at times...

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