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Zhonya's is op

brickyorchid10··2 votes·2,011 views

How can u play an assasin when the enemy team has 3 mages with 3000 hp and 3 zhonya's? Imagine this ur in a team fight.U focus that support morgana she zhonya's Than u say ok i will kill this mid veigar,He zhonya's THAN ok i will focus this top tf BUT GUESS WHAT he zhonya's This item is so op one game even the enemy jinx got zhonya's no joke. So either remove it from the game,but keep stopwatch or just make passive a 300 sec cooldown so u wont have it in evrey teamfight

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DalekZec12 votes

Awww the poor little assassin main doesn't like counterplay! How sad :(

It's called counterplay. Zhonya's cooldown is equal to 3 zed ultis so you have plenty of Windows to go assassin shit.

Try to think maybe.

Luther King Jr V1 votes

is neeko an assassin?

DalekZec1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b5iZg6yR,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-07-14T12:18:34.853+0000)

is neeko an assassin?

No she's a tank fighter.

Polaris I3 votes

4 since it goes to like a 27 second cd

DalekZec1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Polaris I,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b5iZg6yR,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-07-14T13:22:12.476+0000)

4 since it goes to like a 27 second cd

Even worse.

JuiceBoxP8 votes

GOD FORBID there was any counterplay to AD assassins that do 2.5 times the healthbar of every single squishy in the game in a single rotation of their abilities.

Also, AP mages don't have 3k health at any point in the game. More like 2k at level 18.

Also, nice unbiasd poll

Lastly, your mistake was focusing the people with zhoyas. Focus the adc, who doesn't have zhonyas.

Luther King Jr V1 votes

Yeah and your response to dealing with pyke is "learn to side step" not like pyke is an assassin or anything

Learn to side step and not rely on broken items

JuiceBoxP2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b5iZg6yR,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-07-14T11:34:50.764+0000)

Yeah and your response to dealing with pyke is "learn to side step" not like pyke is an assassin or anything

Learn to side step and not rely on broken items

Pyke can't do 2.5 of anyone's healthbar, lol.

Yeah, learn to side step his Q/E engages. What's so bad about that?

Solo lane pyke got dumpstered. You can't even complain now.

Luther King Jr V1 votes

pyke can easily 0-100 someone if you play him correctly yeah i love pyke mains who pretend pyke damage is low and he can't hurt a fly

JuiceBoxP2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b5iZg6yR,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T12:10:02.154+0000)

pyke can easily 0-100 someone if you play him correctly yeah i love pyke mains who pretend pyke damage is low and he can't hurt a fly

W/e man

Zardo3 votes

Pyke can't be punished unless he engages. His passive sustain and insane mobility make it so he can make countless mistakes in lane and get out completely free. Assassins should be high risk high reward, not low risk.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

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Pyke can't be punished unless he engages. His passive sustain and insane mobility make it so he can make countless mistakes in lane and get out completely free. Assassins should be high risk high reward, not low risk.

Pyke is high risk high reward.

If he isn't risking himself then obviously, he's not risking him self... He shouldn't be high risk in lane simply because he exists. Most assassins are EXTREMELY safe if they aren't risking them selves.

Fizz Katarina Leblanc Talon Zed Akali Kayn Khazix Shaco Evelynn All these got EXTREMELY good escape , btw.

Everyone can just farm under the turret His plays are high risk because he has an all-in kit.

Honestly, as a pyke... unless my adc is like total BRAIN DEAD (no chance of winning a fight with him), i'm super aggressive... mostly because that's this champ has a kit that's good for it.

As for solo lane pyke, he has to make plays - or else he's gonna get pushed into the turret over and over and over - just doesn't work for him.

EthanAttacks1 votes

I've seen Luther King Jr V on the boards a bunch and seen him trolling them a bunch.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

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I've seen Luther King Jr V on the boards a bunch and seen him trolling them a bunch.

Yeah, i know. He's nothing but a triggered kid.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Just saying that RoA+Liandry's+Rylai's can put you up pretty damn high - Around 3k by level 18. Pretty sure both Karthus and Morgana can use it.

JuiceBoxP3 votes

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Just saying that RoA+Liandry's+Rylai's can put you up pretty damn high - Around 3k by level 18. Pretty sure both Karthus and Morgana can use it.

Karthus yes, not morgana... Her buildpath is more likeitem 3157 item 3102 item 3285

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

I mean, sure, if you want the lame build.

The chad build is RoA>Liandry's>Rylai's>Luden's>Spirit Visage. Early CDR is for cowards, you're too busy melting their team in an AoE to give a shit about tiny things like CDR.

...On a serious note, I really prefer that build simply because it makes landing multi-man ults easier and safer. Using Zhonya's lets the enemy team walk out of it, with this you just tank their damage then murder them.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

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I mean, sure, if you want the lame build.

The chad build is RoA>Liandry's>Rylai's>Luden's>Spirit Visage. Early CDR is for cowards, you're too busy melting their team in an AoE to give a shit about tiny things like CDR.

...On a serious note, I really prefer that build simply because it makes landing multi-man ults easier and safer. Using Zhonya's lets the enemy team walk out of it, with this you just tank their damage then murder them.

Yeah, tell me how that works for you when you ult an entire team and get focused without zhonyas

hint- you don't stun anyone

vyoda6 votes

Usually, item 3157 equals free CC lockdown. Just wait out the active

ChaosReyn2 votes

I'm all for adding a few seconds to the active, but that's not going to change the part where you get outplayed for tryharding and tilting when you don't instagib the golden bois.

2 Weezy Baby2 votes

lol

Metal Janna2 votes

{quoted} So either remove it from the game,but keep stopwatch or just make passive a 300 sec cooldown so u wont have it in evrey teamfight

Yeah sure, same day Zed's ult CD is nerfed so it isn't back up by the time you revive so that he can just permanently keep you out of the game by pressing R every time you show up in a lane.

Luther King Jr V1 votes

+1

Sky Cardis1 votes

Havent done it in a while...but when I play Support Zilean , I grab item 3026 item 3157 item 3117 and just be a real jackass to the enemy. My whole team is down, I am 1 v 5 the group just wasting as much of the enemies time. Speeding about and just refusing to die, and if by the time they do officially put me down, they are injured, their mana is spent...and my team dives in and scores an Ace all because they were desperate for that "kill score".

I even had a match where I had an enemy Teemo tilted as all hell, and even after going through all my items and ult, I still got away to the turret XD

Now that I think about I ever only used item 3157 on Zilean.

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