RIVEN PLEASE.

Head Connoisseur·5/31/2015, 3:15:56 AM·2 votes·846 views

RIOT PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO SOMETHING ABOUT RIVEN.

Okay, screaming aside, I'm dead serious about this. Just got out of a game where a riven walked up into our entire 5 man group (including 2 tanks), pressed Q 3 times and got a quadra-kill, then walked away with over half-hp because of the ridiculous shield every 6 seconds.

She is by far and away the champion that has caused the most toxicity in any of my games (far more than any bs dmg from a nidalee spear). She is the only champion in the game which entirely sucks the fun out of the match simply by her existing in her current state.

No other champion has as many initiates/escapes/chases, what with each proc of her Q and her E jumping her forward and/or through walls. If a riven wants to chase you, there simply is a 0% chance you will make it out seeing as she can dive turrets starting at level 3 with zero items. Know what? For good measure let's just throw in a damaging, aoe stun on top of all that. Cause that's a fun thing to have.

Oh and you know what's also cool? When she's resource-less as well.

She is the only champion that I will ALWAYS ban in ANY scenario. I don't care what the situation is, she is on my ban list. The 2nd guy on my team wants to play her? I couldn't care less, she's banned. The other team doesn't even own her? Idgaf. Banned.

Please Rito, change her somehow. There no times in the game where trying to fight a riven is anything close to a fun gaming experience.

Let's be honest here, guys, there really isn't such a thing as a 'counter' when it comes to riven. Come on, Garen? Renekton? Pantheon? Darius? All of these supposed 'counters' get brutally violated by riven as soon as she hits level 3.

I didn't come here just to whine and bitch, though, I've also got a few suggestions on how to (sort of) balance her out a little. Now idk/idc if these ideas have been posted here before, I'm just throwing out what I think could be some positive alterations.

1: Make her require mana. 2: Make her use energy. There's a reason Zed/Kennen use energy. It's because having a Zed that could eternally chase you across the map with his shadow dashing, or a Kennen who could always use his speed boost to chase you would be ridiculous and unfair (sound familiar?). 3: Make her Q build up stacks over time. Pretty self-explanatory here. Every...8 seconds shall we say, she gains one stack on her Q (rather than allowing her to use all 3 procs every time the basic cooldown ends). This would allow her to keep a core part of her kit (jumping in, bursting everyone down and then E'ing out), but would make it so that she cannot chase after you without end if you survive her combo. 4: Make it so that the 2nd and 3rd proc of her Q are only available if the 1st proc hits an enemy. 5: Lengthen the cooldowns. Basic, I know, but would make playing against her significantly less painful for anyone.

15 Comments

Genuwhine5/31/2015, 3:17:58 AM4 votes

maybe you are just a silver 3 baddy who doesnt know how to play vs a champ that can snowball, let me guess nerf every assassin too because when they beat you and get ahead they do alot more damage (who knew Kappa) i could play vi top and do the same thing its a fighter champion derp learn more about the game before you complain

CreationFlaw5/31/2015, 3:29:17 AM3 votes

You could let her push the wave, stay under tower, and maybe miss a few cs, but in exchange not feed riven. Taadaa

Damaged Knives5/31/2015, 3:33:56 AM3 votes

Riven is not that hard to face, her q CD is too long and she is only melee. The only ranged in her ability is her ult, which has a long CD. All you need to do is wait for her to use q then strike the only thing she can do is stun and run away.

NemeBro5/31/2015, 4:15:59 AM3 votes

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Let's be honest here, guys, there really isn't such a thing as a 'counter' when it comes to riven. Come on, Garen? Renekton? Pantheon? Darius? All of these supposed 'counters' get brutally violated by riven as soon as she hits level 3.

This is not true.

I have never in my life lost to a Riven while playing Garen, Renekton, or Darius (I've never played Panth against her). Add Tryndamere onto there as well. Hell, add Singed.

Darius' level 3 is just as strong as Riven's.

Drezmal5/31/2015, 4:17:37 AM3 votes

shes in good spot i think although i FUCKING HATE HER shes in a good spot

ShinTwist5/31/2015, 3:32:03 AM2 votes

All this thread is actually about is you wanting Riot to remove obstacles for you, rather than for you to actually do work and improve.

No one in Silver can actually even play Riven well, and she's remarkably easy to shut down.

Oh and this:

Just got out of a game where a riven walked up into our entire 5 man group (including 2 tanks), pressed Q 3 times and got a quadra-kill, then walked away with over half-hp because of the ridiculous shield every 6 seconds.

Never happened.

Darth Pixy Misa5/31/2015, 6:29:22 AM2 votes

Op it is your teams fault you let Riven get 7 kills by the 15 min mark. How does a Darius lose to Riven? How do Maokai and Darius fail to shut Riven down? That is mind boggleing.....

BeatzBoyFTW5/31/2015, 4:53:43 AM2 votes

Garen : lol Darius : lol Teemo : lol Yorick : lol Galio : lol (<-- not kidding)

Rico Jungle Only5/31/2015, 3:36:31 AM2 votes

The Answer: Its longer cooldowns hands down. But MIND YOU, I actually advocated a while back for changes which would nerf her, (which she was indeed nerfed).

She is at LEAST better now that she was before. For Reference, her Q used to half-life 70% of champions at LEVEL 1. They had her Q changed to scale so its fair.

THAT SAID, extensive cooldowns would be my recommendation...but its not as bad as it seems.

I personally use Garen to reliably counter-pick Riven and shut her down. Specific tips: When you see her about to combo (she started her first Q and she is very close to you), have your Q ready, run in, Q her, AND IF NOT NEAR MINIONS, E her to hell.

BIGGEST TIP: As long as the minions are NOT PUSHED TO HER SIDE of the lane, you have a decent advantage against her. Only last hit and PLEASE do not use your abilities to farm the minions. Thats the worst thing you can do.

Why? the further the lane is pushed, the longer it takes to run to your tower, and Riven wins extended trades with her movement abilities. If she out damages you, and you pushed your lane to her side, pay the consequences.

TL;DR DONT push the lane or farm with your abilities, and trade with her when the farm is on your side and your abilities don't push it when trading...and you WILL win. Exhaust helps if you wanna all-in Riven . <3

SwiftKitten885/31/2015, 4:51:06 AM1 votes

rievn is strong but i dont think she needs to be nerfed THAT much.. her shield is a bit too strong i think though. and although i dont like all her stuff being free you can excatly give her mana.. energy might work though. but i think the shield needs a nerf before that