Malz Rework: Please No

Zullar·Apr 22, 2016·9 votes·1,370 views

Removing Malz's pool (W) will ruin his zoning and kiting (Rylas) potential. Please do not do this. Please leave him the way he is.

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RebonackApr 22, 20168 votes

The new Malz remake is one of the worst I've seen in a while.

Wrecks what makes him interesting and doesn't address the actual points of low interactivity.

0/10. Riot just keeps giving me reasons to never play this game again.

ZyniXApr 22, 20167 votes

I don't get why he needs banshees on a 30 second cd. That was his weakness as a mage, being vunerable and immobile. I guess they needed an excuse to lower all of his ratios because burst is "unhealthy". I also used his w for catching people with rhylais. His new w functions similarly because it still does damage over time, can be avoided (by killing the voidlings), and rhylai still slows except it's not aoe.

Faith BreakerApr 22, 20162 votes

Riot always knows best, always.

XevozzApr 26, 20164 votes

The rework is terrible only reason there doing it is because people cant have the mental capacity to counter him with items and champs so they complain he's op when there was nothing wrong with him. Malz ad was a rare fun play style that many used but not what this rework should of been about he's a MAGE. And for those who say his ult suppression is too strong you have to use CC >.> R.I.P Malzahar 2016

ZullarApr 22, 20163 votes

I don't agree with them changing Malz's identity from a zoner/blanket damager to a duelist. If they want a duelist then make a new champ, don't gut an existing one!

Adolf Hit RApr 22, 20162 votes

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I don't agree with them changing Malz's identity from a zoner/blanket damager to a duelist. If they want a duelist then make a new champ, don't gut an existing one!

Malz mostly is a duelist right now. He's able to kill essentially any champion who doesn't have QSS 1v1.

ZullarApr 22, 20163 votes

I'd agree with that (if you can land all spells). But he can also kite and zone with Rylas + pool (W)... and also zone (nobody likes to stand in the pool) which is the part that will be messed up with this rework.

Best Lee Sin OHApr 22, 20162 votes

I just wish that they would remove the suppression on his ult altogether even if it means making Malz a monster. There are far more healthy options to lock down high-mobility champs.

ZullarApr 22, 20162 votes

I agree. Supression is where it's broken. If the target doesn't have QSS then it can seem OP, and if they have QSS then Malz becomes very ineffective. Personally I'd like to see Mercurial Scimitar removed and the game balanced around the item not existing. I mean putting huge damage, MR, lifesteal, move speed boost, and removal of all CC (and DOT's like Malz's E) all in 1 item... come on!

DarkLarvitarApr 22, 20162 votes

Khazix Change is good

PoskeApr 22, 20162 votes

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Removing Malz's pool (W) will ruin his zoning and kiting (Rylas) potential. Please do not do this. Please leave him the way he is.

I understand that to malza player W was his signature ability and the ability you guys played around Now you ll play around voidlings

I think you ll like that more

So dont knock it till you try it (: [slayer-jinx-catface]

Mataka TekMay 5, 20163 votes

I main Malzahar. I have some issues with the re-work as well as some likes.

I have played several games with the new Malz... and the overall result is: FEWER KILLS! and Less deaths.

Basically, the problem I have is telling me what "Malzahar's Core Purpose" is... and the thing is, As far as I feel, his core purpose was 2 fold:

To Ult Suppress (and if good , kill)
WAVE CLEAR! Pushing power with Visions go from 1 minion to the next, and Voidlings tanking the damage and dishing it out.

Riot Gaveth and they also NERFED... Its sort of annoying to hear how "Buffed" Malzahar was going to be.. .when infact, he was heavily NERFED. BUT, before you flame.... please listen to the logic. Yes, now he has the Void Rift...BUT:

In the past, I could avoid ganks by playing it safe and letting the visions and voidling do the work... now, I can't push because the voidlings are so low in HP they die in 1 hit. They don't reproduce well attacking "plain" minions... and because Visions was nerfed... my push basically sucks.

YES, The void shift really helps with the constant threat of being jungle ganked. But, WHAT GOOD is having that if I am no longer a threat to push my lane?

I would like to keep all the current changes to Malzahar except I recommend the following:

The voidlings Movements speed should be derived from the current movement speed off the Champion's speed + their bonus, and they should live a little longer as the champ levels up... get a little more HP as he levels up so he can tank turrets. If they don't get this,.... they can't catch the enemy at all. Making them "Useless" late game and also useless against highly mobile targets (which so many champs are hyper mobile).

Don't Nerf the Malefic Visions... bring it back to the pre-Rework levels. At its current level it just can't sustain well. and Malz has lost his "wave clear"

Again, without wave clear, Malz loses his main identity.

Ie, Malz is safer... but at the expense of no longer being able to perform.

Thurst28May 7, 20162 votes

Just got out of my first game with new malz. Total trash. Your void spawn can't do a thing now because you have to cast before ult and ramp up to the most predicable ult in the game. Pretty sure the dmg on the spells have scaled way down. way clear is good for one wave then you need a W reset for the next. Total trash. I want a refund on this champ. You took a pretty solid, fairly new, and well balanced champ that is countered by items available to anyone and nurf him into the ground. What's great is this will never be undone. So I want a refund, utter bull. I bought old Malz not this new turd. Plus your voidlings are weak since you have to ramp them up on minions. Which an opponet with 1/4 of a brain, not even half a brain but a quarter, will run back when you E is about to kill the last minions so it don't jump top them. WTF riot. is there not shitty champs that could use a rework more then him. REFUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!