Can we please get rid of point click stun ults?

LBmyBB·1/10/2020, 1:45:00 AM·1 votes·1,017 views

Stun, uproot, whatever, they're all good for doing the same thing. Im talking Nautilus Vi Malzahar etc. They're not fun, and they're such braindead skills. What is skillful about hovering over a champ and pressing a button and they're stunned? Mechanically it's not balanced and they get really old.

Some will say "then just get a QSS," Well then I say, why should I have to get an item that takes up a whole slot, isn't relatively cheap, and ONLY BUILDS INTO AN ADC ITEM?" Like why doesn't built into Mikael's Cruicible, or introduce an item AP users can use?

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iiGazeii1/10/2020, 1:55:53 AM6 votes

Point-and-click stuns are one of the last checks we have against assassins running rampant. They are absolutely balanced by their long cooldowns and limited range.

Compare Nautilus ult to Xerath E. Nautilus stuns you for 1-2 seconds on a 120-80s cooldown. Xerath stuns you for 0.5-2s on a 13-11s cooldown. The stun is just as good, but on about a tenth of the cooldown.

Another comparison: Nautilus ult vs Ashe ult. Ashe's ult has a longer stun in an AoE, has global range, and does way more damage on a shorter cooldown, just for being a skillshot. Nautilus needs to get relatively close to you to ult you for a stun that's objectively worse in exchange for not needing to aim it.

The thigh guy1/10/2020, 2:03:54 AM3 votes

Not until we get rid of all this rampant fucking damage.

Cind3rkick1/10/2020, 2:12:16 AM3 votes

yeah sure lets just remove even more counterplay to hypermobility and invisibility.

or do you enjoy an untouchable akali killing your adc.

Not to mention that they all take up alot of the power budget of the champion and all have some sort of drawback.

Nautillus R is a knockup that chases the target. It isnt even instant or usually too fast to respond to like malphite's ultimate. Vi R? Well that shows exactly where Vi is going. And when the enemy knows exactly what you are doing, it doesnt usually go well. Malz... cant even move while ulting. He point and click stuns himself along with the enemy.

Compare it to malphite, who can knockup an entire team with no warning. Or a Yuumi with a giant aoe nuke along with a stun. how about a mummy that can stun an entire team. Even nami has a knockup stronger than Nautillus most of the time.

Minimac20001/10/2020, 3:05:56 AM1 votes

Also most of these abilities are ULTS which make up like I wanna say 80-90% of their users kits. Malzahar is an r bot. Nautilus is mostly an r bot. Vi is 100% just an r bot