Fix Solo queue for low elo

Hela·May 7, 2017·1 votes·381 views

I find it a little absurd that you can derank from gold to silver, and silver to bronze. Stop punishing new or unskilled players for trying to climb effectively. And I feel they need to set the LP gain and loss at a fixed rate. Its so random to one game get 20LP and another to gain 16 but to lose 24Lp... I understand MMR and what not, but it just discourages lower elo players to climb. Especially when ive been gold 3 seasons in a row only to have trouble with all the new changes in season 7

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MysterQMay 7, 20171 votes

I agree with most of this though.

LP gains/losses should be fixed. Gains should be higher than losses. There is no need for this bull of LP tied to MMR to force deranks/ranks. If you win you should be climbing regardless.

Getting rid of deranks would make lower ELO ranks more fun. But I can understand why they are there. They could easily remove the derank option but still have LP losses effectively locking someone into a rank. I am not saying this is a great solution, but if MMR is already matching the player vs his "skill MMR" then the whole displayed rank is for brags or rewards. No reason to "punish" players.

DrCyanideMay 7, 20171 votes

If you lose 24LP, then the system thought the game you lost should have been an easy win for you. If you gain 16LP, then the system thought the game you won is one that should have been an easy win for you.

Being able to de-rank is a good thing for low elo players. You don't want someone who's actually performing at Bronze 5 level to be on your team when you're in your promos for Gold 5, just because they got lucky in their placements, do you? No, you want them to be able to fall down to where they better match their skill level.

Especially when ive been gold 3 seasons in a row only to have trouble with all the new changes in season 7

If you're having trouble with the Season 7 changes, why should you expect to be at the same level you where in seasons where you didn't have that trouble?

Edit: Also, last year they made it easier to climb in low elo, adding Promo Helper.

MysterQMay 7, 20171 votes

Great argument.

EXCEPT Riot has MMR which creates "balanced" games. So no game should ever be an easy win or loss. No promo should ever be decided by someone who is outmatched. Does this work out in reality. Of course not, but the way it is designed, then none of your argument matters. He is always facing opponents at his level.