The Surrender System and the inconsistency of anonymity.

All Might Jr·11/18/2018, 7:20:56 PM·1 votes·1,179 views

To get right into it, I don't particularly see the reason why the identity of all but one vote while surrendering is kept completely obscured. The person who starts the surrender vote is listed in the chat and their vote automatically counts as a "Yes". Every other person on the team is allowed to vote anonymously. This is genuinely a little confounding, as it leads to a weird middle ground that I don't think especially serves anyone. It puts one person in the spotlight into what is, most likely, a discussion that should involve all five players on the team. I know this is anecdotal, but I have genuinely had games where people have just straight up lied about what they voted, with only the person who initiated the surrender vote able to verify their position. Why give people the ability to do that, when you could add the transparency and at least make it an honest argument if nothing else?

I feel like this is a genuine problem regardless of where you stand on the issue of surrendering, as it doesn't necessarily make the process of a surrender vote "easier" or "harder", but does make it more open and transparent rather than clouded with an unnecessary air of mystery. Depending on your current level of cynicism in your fellow man, it could lead to genuine discussion as people defend their positions, or it could simply oust the trolling duo botlane who are both 0/20

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ZephyrDrake11/18/2018, 7:37:05 PM3 votes

or it would lead to people harassing those who voted no

Febos11/18/2018, 7:29:58 PM2 votes

Two possible solutions:

1 - Hide the player proposing the surrender. 2 - Show everyone's vote.

I like the 2nd the best. It shows exactly who is voting what and you from there you can determine if they are trolling or really trying to win.

I've had games where I started a surrender vote and two guys on my team, the ones ahead, voted "No". They then told me why they voted "No" and from there we went on to win the game. Likewise, I've had games where I, or someone on my team, was extremely ahead and someone else started a surrender vote. Like in the other case, I told them "just trust us and we will carry" and so we did.