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Suggestion: Let Nami's E apply Stoneborn Pact

Envoy of Melody··2 votes·1,102 views

This really shouldn't be such a major gamechanger and I feel like Nami could profit off an itemization building up on Stoneborn Pact.

So as you know (or may not), Stoneborn Pact triggers item 3504 and recently I've been getting more and more into the mastery. It's really cool that you can have ANY character with any form of CC apply Ardent Censer to their team now, but something is missing...

I'm talking about Nami 's E, Tidecaller's Blessing. The skill amplifies her target's next three basic attacks with bonus magic damage and a percentage slow, but because the skill is coded to count the slow and damage as the ADC's, Nami can't apply Stoneborn Pact by letting her ADC hit targets. I think it would be cool if Nami could buff an ally's basic attacks and make them apply Stoneborn Pact so the allies can then consume the Stoneborn Pact effect and automatically get Ardent Censer. Is that a possibility, or nay?

7 Comments

Pie Cubed1 votes

She's already a very well balanced champion, don't ruin that.

Envoy of Melody1 votes

How does this ruin her balance?

She switches off Windspeaker, loses 10% healing + armor/mr for a mastery that heals her allies for 7 hp over 2 seconds in the early game which doesn't get ANY better.

Nothing is 'ruined' because Nami would trade a tool for a different playstyle that's less monotone than her usual "Go full W and only heal". It would actually turn into "Go full E to help your ADC and build Ardent Censer so they can apply the buff for themselves when you're dead/busy.

Besides that Nami can still just get Windspeaker, go full W and THEN apply Ardent Censer. It seems really ignorant to imply that anything is broken or unbalanced because it receives more buildpath options. That's like saying Yasuo is broken if you give him AP scaling on his Q.

Pie Cubed1 votes

No I'm saying that Nami has been balanced for a long time, and if anything changes, you know Riot. They'll end up screwing the whole thing up to "compensate" for changes.

BlueBilberry1 votes

Just letting you know, that Nami's E does proc Stoneborn. You have to self-cast it though to get it to happen.

Envoy of Melody1 votes

{quoted}

Just letting you know, that Nami's E does proc Stoneborn. You have to self-cast it though to get it to happen.

That won't cut what I have in mind. I want an Ardent Censer Stoneborn build with which my ADC can refresh the Ardent Censer buff everytime they attacked something twice.

BlueBilberry1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Envoy of Melody,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=abB9Ylag,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-08-10T17:30:06.979+0000)

That won't cut what I have in mind. I want an Ardent Censer Stoneborn build with which my ADC can refresh the Ardent Censer buff everytime they attacked something twice.

But you aren't looking at the entire picture - it doesn't have to be on the adc for a Stoneborn build on Nami to be OP. Take a look - the Q, E and R all proc stoneborn which procs the Ardent. Plus the Ardent is proc'd by the W (heal). So, that's an insane amount of sustain for the ADC in lane already.

Then, throw a Zeke's and Redemption (even for the heal boost alone) into the picture, combined with you spamming your Q, W, E and sometimes R then you are looking at multiple heals and procs of Stoneborn/Ardent for an entire team during a team fight. Even if your E is self-cast to proc the Stoneborn, it's ridiculously busted - and I've tested it in normals. (Just waiting for the right ranked game to bring over the Lemon's Morgana build to Nami.)

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

It will proc if the slow comes from you.

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