The current Enchanter meta in a nutshell

Envoy of Melody·10/4/2017, 2:51:31 PM·81 votes·3,914 views

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I'm sorry that I looked down on the tank meta as cancerous and unfunny. Enchanters took the trophy home on this one, I haven't felt this limited and defenseless against ADCs in a long time. Amumu

40 Comments

Morgan le Fey10/4/2017, 6:27:40 PM14 votes

The issue is still marksman items, though. Enchanters are supposed to be good at protecting people. It's their whole thing. Marksmen aren't supposed to have so much self-survivability, though. item 3072item 3153item 3812item 3046 were critical when enchanters were too weak, but now they're just overkill. We don't need to make enchanters weaker - instead, we should remove the crutches marksmen used to live when enchanters couldn't keep them as safe.

The basic problem is that ADCs couldn't rely on enchanters to keep them alive, so they had to do it themselves. As such, they got the tools to do so. However, now that they can rely on their enchanters, those tools haven't been nerfed or changed in any way. The problem isn't that enchanters are useful now, but that ADCs themselves have too much survivability for the squishy DPS champs they're supposed to be.

Ariel the Cruel10/4/2017, 8:07:26 PM14 votes

Eh. I still say assassin meta was worse. 2 reasons.

  1. You can leave base right now. ADC's aren't going to insta-gib someone every 10 seconds and vanish without a trace. They also tend to travel in a horde with the rest of the team, making it easier to ward out.
  2. Snowballs end quickly. Most assassins sucked at ending games, which meant 30-40 minutes if being trapped in base because your Ziggs/Jayce/Sivir/etc. can still out-push them despite being trapped on spawn platform since minute 7.
Oleandervine10/4/2017, 6:42:05 PM8 votes

I think your meme is wrong. People can actually go into and see the white house in person and directly interact with the president. Area 51 does not exist. I think one of these things has a massive amount of security that the other does not.

Thefrostyviking10/4/2017, 4:25:59 PM4 votes

Which marksmen though? Because the class is kinda diverse.....altho i myself find Twitch to be a massive pain.

However most marksmen currently are just a pain in the ass because they use item 3087 item 3094 item 3031 to deal burst in a manner proven to be very powerful, especially against squishies.

But a few are genuinely only powerful because enchanters are strong, kog is such a case, he has never been good unless lulu or Janna also are as far as i can remember.

So aside from static build, twitch and enchanters playing in a rather....stale but also powerful way that lets marksman avoid paying for their mistakes. But other than that i don't think any one of them in particular stands out as problematic....

Oh, except Vayne who is a abomination that ought to be permabanned, or at least prevented from playing with an enchanter.

My few impressions as a semiAshemain.

CytheGuy10/4/2017, 11:13:53 PM4 votes

If you die in the end no matter what, did it really hurt?

Evil Yasuo10/5/2017, 9:50:27 AM3 votes

I literally can NOT get near adc's in team fights anymore. If I do, as soon as I come out of stealth, my burst get's completely negated by shields, I get cc'd and 1 shotted.

Thilmer10/4/2017, 8:58:36 PM2 votes

I want ADCs to be nerfed to the ground.

A champion that can kill enemies with a ranged skill with no CD, that scales with 100% total AD, that can't be dodged... should never be this strong.

Probably somebody has say it already, but Burst Per Second without even using proper skills shouldn't be a thing.

Rainfall10/4/2017, 8:01:15 PM2 votes

you have angered the e girls

TyrekGoldenspear10/4/2017, 8:04:38 PM2 votes

Well it's a team effort. Enchanters nees someone to enchant after all.

I wouldn't mind supporting a melee botlaner tbh. I once helped a Morde bot wreck hard

Existential Bard10/5/2017, 8:59:13 PM1 votes

To be fair, enchanter meta is at least nice in that now you have bot lane supports that are actually supporting rather than going mage supports like brand/ zyra/ lux.

What I feel needs to happen for more diverse game styles to emerge is for Riot to create other equally strong support items that can compete with the synergy of Ardents with enchanting supports.

For example for cc tanks, maybe there could be an item that debuffs the enemy for a short duration after being cced. ( I'm not sure just throwing out ideas).

Another solution could be to expand the items paths for last whisper, giant slayer, and executioners calling. Maybe another item for debunking shields.

The Trent10/5/2017, 10:48:09 PM1 votes

Kalista Such a huge lane bully. I'm always like 5000 cs behind. At least Caitlyn isn't meta anymore.

azsympylenkur10/6/2017, 6:58:15 PM1 votes

ADC IN 2k17 meme is dead :D