Now that the Support role is slowly getting defined by what you build and not what you play

Envoy of Melody·Dec 26, 2016·87 votes·3,774 views

KNEEL BEFORE YOUR NEW OVERLORD.

Full E upgrade Urgot, it deals DoT physical damage so Black Cleaver will shred your armor to the maximum with one hit!11! Ionian Boots so you can spam that Exhaust more!! Mountain, Redemption and Locket so you can get your lips on that ADC rod!!

Ruby Sightstone? CHECK THAT SHIT!! Gotta want that 20% item cooldown reduction for more lip action!!

EDIT: 40% COOLDOWN REDUCTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

39 Comments

BlâckLotusDec 26, 20167 votes

sightstone? is this a prank?

Envoy of MelodyDec 26, 201667 votes

You don't actually put down wards. You just need it for 20% cooldown reduction on items so you can spam.

Sraeg2013Dec 26, 201612 votes

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Chromatic EagleDec 27, 20163 votes

[{quoted}](name=Envoy of Melody,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=ZzmJcG84,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-12-26T18:37:55.621+0000)

You don't actually put down wards.

God damn it.

Mistress MadokaDec 28, 20161 votes

Pokedex entry 132, man.

(Ditto)

LordGeovanniDec 28, 20161 votes

thats off meta supports (heck even meta supports) on the whole you dont put down wards you buy it to shut up the btch on your team who cries support no sightstone.

AlmightyDec 26, 20167 votes

I will have to try this for myself. You will actually make me spend IP on Urgot.

Almighty.

SpecterVonBarenDec 26, 20166 votes

We Dota now boys! Reminds me of how I had to win a game as Gyrocopter and for ten games I couldn't get anywhere with him, then I just said fuck it and played him as a support, buying support items and I won.

RoodrakDec 26, 20162 votes

I mean theres an inherent difference. In Dota supports are actually desginned as supports, in this game (Barring Janna, Bard) supports are Mid laners with shit scaling, or top Laners with shit lane presence/initiation.

In Dota, it doesnt matter what items you build, an Oracle/Dazzle will always out preform a non support.

SpecterVonBarenDec 27, 20162 votes

What? No... that's the complete opposite of how it is. In Dota what makes your champ is much more defined by what you buy than it is in League. The reason I could lay Gyrocopter as a support in Dota was because I could use his base damage and just buy items for utility, you can do that with almost any champ in Dota, in League, taking Katarina into bot lane and thinking you can just buy support items is just a bad idea that doesn't work.

Part of this is because there's no real spell scaling in Dota, another part is that when you buy an item in League, whether you buy it or not is largely dependent on its stats, an item with a great active will still be passed over if it has low stats (Just look at how item 3157 has turned out, people still take it but it's not the universal buy it once was) while in Dota you mainly buy an item for its active or passive ability. Blink Dagger provides no stats whatsoever and costs a decent amount of money but a hero like Tidehunter can end a game with nothing but boots and a Blink Dagger because the active far outweighs any stats he might get from another item.

The reason a support is almost always in a League game is because they don't need gold to scale their spells, in Dota, no one has spells that scale (Well, not no one but the outliers are rare) so everyone has strong spells even without gold (Which you need since it's so easy to lose the gold you get) so you can put almost anyone in a position of having very little gold and it will still work. A support is not synonymous with having no gold, League is just designed around having its supports be that way. You don't need a true support in every game of Dota because a lot of heroes of different classes can function without gold or levels while in League that's reserved almost exclusively for the support class.

TLDR; Most champs in League can't function with a low gold income or being behind a few levels, in Dota most heroes CAN function on a low gold income or being behind a few levels, it might not be the most optimal way to use them but you can actually do it and have it work whereas in League doing that will often cause you to fall flat on your face.

BârdDec 27, 20161 votes

Ostarion: ALL HAIL THE WRAITH

item 3116 : Please just give me the wards

Ostarion: I AM THE WARDS

Wraith King has purchased tome of knowledge

item 3116 y u do dis I am level 11 at 45 mins

Ostarion: I WANT IT ALL

notice me Sin piDec 27, 20163 votes

{quoted} in this game (Barring Janna, Bard) supports are utility Mid laners with shit scaling, or **utlity**top Laners

fixed it for u.

Removd "shit lane presence/initiation" cuz Blitzcrank Leona are both designed to be top laners initially but are used as supports, and they clearly have great lane presence and initiation

underscores222Dec 27, 20162 votes

Leo was released as a support tank.

notice me Sin piDec 27, 20162 votes

i dont think so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oViu5Pv_wwY

underscores222Dec 27, 20161 votes

All laning phase portions of that video show her in bot lane with another champ. That's pretty much support...

notice me Sin piDec 27, 20161 votes

full tanks generally dont 1vs1, especially back in those days so not really

LA LostyDec 26, 20164 votes

I have already embraced UrGOD as my new overlord ever since i got the Battlecast skin for him in hextech crafting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqsHHc7CDLw This was my first game with the skin, as you can see it pays off to follow his path.

BârdDec 27, 20162 votes

No, no, no.

Crabgot is the way to tranquility.

TeCoolMageDec 26, 20163 votes

G_G EZ

Maybe try Ardent Censer + Death's Dance (which benefits from % heal) instead of Locket and black cleaver so you can give a team wide on hit buff and survive 4 eva!!

Envoy of MelodyDec 26, 201617 votes

The best support is the debuffing support. Your ADC can't bitch and complain when they take kills with that sweet damage increase from your black cleaver debuff. That's 50% armor reduction!!

Also never use ultimate to engage, waste it to save your ADC. Stay as far away from them as possible and ult whatever assassin tries to jump on top of them. Bam, easy, that assassin is now miles away from your little bitch.

A LiberalDec 26, 201614 votes

You can also literally just auto attack an asassin going for the ADC once and ruin the kill early game due to your passive.

elon wątrobaDec 27, 20162 votes

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The best support is the debuffing support. Your ADC can't bitch and complain when they take kills with that sweet damage increase from your black cleaver debuff. That's 50% armor reduction!!

Also never use ultimate to engage, waste it to save your ADC. Stay as far away from them as possible and ult whatever assassin tries to jump on top of them. Bam, easy, that assassin is now miles away from your little bitch.

His passive is even better debuff.

BârdDec 27, 20163 votes

Tut tut tut.

No, that is not the way.

We build item 2301 for item slot efficiency and lots of gold.

We max Q first to abuse its base damage, and W second to abuse its slow. E shred is not useful until later in the game.

We do not build cleavers. We build Mikaels, Mortal Reminder, Knights Vow, or Righteous Glory dependent on the situation.

All hail Frozen Heart, our lord and savior.

Long live the Crab.

GULAG 4 UDec 26, 20162 votes

Urgod op

bow markerDec 26, 20162 votes

What about masteries?

5000000000000000Dec 26, 20162 votes

Either thunderlords or DFT I'd guess

AMYS GRAVEDec 27, 20161 votes

what? windspeakers for more lip action!

SlntReaperDec 26, 20162 votes

What champ is that?

Prophet of UrgodDec 27, 20162 votes

Some viable substitutes are

item 3800 and item 3069 .

Movement boost allows for an easier time catching out of placed enemies.

It Hertz When IPDec 26, 20161 votes

I figure you're probably joking, but all the same, at my ELO this might actually work. Only change I would make might be to switch out Locket for Knights Vow situationally.