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I think there should be Legendary items.

404 Terror··1 votes·1,218 views

We've all been in those matches that just drag on.. and on... and on..... You end up with a full build at 20min and the only thing left to do is sit on the thousands of gold you continue to gain, while everyone you outscaled is slowly catching up to you. Then at 30min, 40min, 50min... you've changed your build several times and the match still hasn't ended.

Solution: add Legendary item upgrades. I think at the 20min mark, Legendary item upgrades should become available. The enemy team had a chance to surrender, and now it's your chance to crush them.

Maybe don't do Legendary upgrades for every item, but the core items with passives, yes (Infinity Edge = Perfect Infinity Edge with increased crit damage; Rabadon's Deathcap = Perfect Rabadon's Deathcap with increased AP%). The upgrades don't have to be OMFGWTFBBQ overpowered, just something to add an edge to those who are carrying their team super hard and deserve a little bonus for their efforts.

Not only does this speed up matches for those hard-carrying their team, it gives everyone something else to do instead of playing the waiting game for a champion to be out of position in team fights. ALSO, you don't have to feel like you've "capped out" once you reach a full build, which is the real purpose behind this proposal. You can only re-itemize so many times during a match before it just gets boring..

17 Comments

Daddy Sloth4 votes

If you somehow manage to get a shitty full build at the 20 minute mark and still can't win, the other team deserves to because you couldn't close the game out.

balbraaksel4 votes

Then you did something wrong. Once you're close to full build, let others last hit, let others take the kills. It's a team game, don't go nuts on making your stats look nice, let your team gather up some gold too.

404 Terror3 votes

Sooo, you're saying that a single carry should be able to win an entire match by 20min. Last I checked, this is a team game. You can't push every lane yourself. You can't score an ACE without assistance.

Your toxicity is not welcome here. This is about furthering itemization and adding to late-game content. If you've never sat on 5k+ gold at the end of a 50min+ match, you don't know the struggle.

Daddy Sloth4 votes

Maybe you should focus on giving your team kills so they find some gold in their own pockets, making your team stronger compared to your opponents.

hisPetMunkey1 votes

help your team get kills instead of taking them all yourself? What language are you speaking? You must not be bronze 4 life.

And i agree with cassanova as well....if you are truly FULLY built by the 20 min mark, and you can't carry your team down mid and end the game, you're doing something wrong.

On the other hand, legendary items isn't a terrible idea wth the caveat that they do not open up until you have gotten at least 6 kills without doing and it's after the 20 min mark. The 6 kills is my addition to your proposal because the announcer calls out when a champ is legendary....at that point the other team needs to be wary cuz the legend items are coming out.

A final caveat to the idea is instead of the 20 min mark, because let's be honest, nobody is ever 100% built by the 20 min mark, make the items available at the 45 min mark. Otherwise champs who are falling behind early game are going to go straight for legendary items to try and catch up.

King Odin3 votes

You're saying that if you happen to snowball early game with someone like Yasuo or Katarina, the enemy team should have no chance of winning just because you're hyper fed? Atleast items like Mejais and Sword of the Occult have a major risk factor but buffing players who do exceptionally well, would make the game one sided and make smurfing even more of an issue.

King Odin2 votes

Also just to add, having extra items that players can buy when everyone is at full build makes no difference to the game since everyone should be full build by 50 minutes . All it does it make fed players even more fed in the early game.

MPendragon1 votes

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Sooo, you're saying that a single carry should be able to win an entire match by 20min. Last I checked, this is a team game. You can't push every lane yourself. You can't score an ACE without assistance.

Your toxicity is not welcome here. This is about furthering itemization and adding to late-game content. If you've never sat on 5k+ gold at the end of a 50min+ match, you don't know the struggle.

Clearly you haven't seen my AP Amumu.

Serevas3 votes

Frankly your arguement about this being a team game also applies to your problem in general. If you have full build by 20 minutes, nobody else on your team probably has anything at all. I'm going to throw numbers at you because I don't think you realize what you're actually saying.

item 3031 : 3800g item 3087 : 2500g item 3153 : 3200g item 3254 : 1475g item 3035 : 2300g item 3026 : 2800g

Total: 16075g at 20 minutes.

Now let me put this into perspective even further. There are often times where half the team doesn't hit 16k at 50 minutes, and you're suggesting this happens in less than half of that time frequently. Not to mention that every time you kill someone their value decreases until they kill someone.

I had a game where I went 35/6/6 the other day and my grand total at the end of the game was 26k, that game lasted 50 minutes. At the 20 minute mark I was 10/0/x with one tower to my name and the global gold from another, I had somewhere in the area of 130cs give or take, and a dragon. I managed to have a build of item 3153, item 3142, item 1001, with 835 gold having gone to potions and wards.

I don't understand how you could possibly have even close to a full build at 20 minutes unless you're in an ARAM.

404 Terror1 votes

You clearly have never Jungled. And on that note, Jungled well. It's super easy to achieve a full build by 20min. It's just not super easy to get teams who push lanes and go after objectives.

Serevas4 votes

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You clearly have never Jungled. And on that note, Jungled well. It's super easy to achieve a full build by 20min. It's just not super easy to get teams who push lanes and go after objectives.

You know, the problem of making comments like that is that it causes people to go through your match history, and the only instances of you carrying anywhere near as hard as you're implying showed you at not even half build at 20 minutes. Please try to make substantiated claims in the future. Thanks.

Hasztalan21 votes

Strife solved it the best way, you can purchase amplyfing tomes similar to the old W3 model and spend your money even after you are full build.

404 Terror1 votes

Sorry that I carry super hard? I'm not waiting around to allow laners to last hit for the kills. That's dumb. If they're not engaging properly to get the kill, that's their own fault. I'll take assists all day, but I'm not going easy on kills and allowing a chance for the enemy to escape just because laners are too slow to react.

Ice Weasel X1 votes

Since everyone already tore apart your claims of being at full build at 20 minutes, I'll just take this moment to mention that there are already Legendary items (most standard final build items, in fact), and they aren't even the highest item tier in game.

Scindo1 votes

I know this is really off topic, but I noticed your name and couldn't help but ask.. Did you attend the Ice Weasel X event yesterday?

Ice Weasel X1 votes

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I know this is really off topic, but I noticed your name and couldn't help but ask.. Did you attend the Ice Weasel X event yesterday?

Just now seeing this since my response counter got bombed by another thread. This is actually the first I've ever heard of an event with that name (Googled before hitting reply).

rnax1 votes

Your claims are completely unsubstantiated. There is exactly one of your last twenty games in which you achieved full build, and in that game, you were not even jungling, you were supporting as Morgana. In addition, that game lasted 50 minutes, by which time pretty much everybody in the game has full build. Even in the games where you "carried" (very high KDA), you did not have full build even at 30 minutes. This would have been a legitimate proposal if what you suggested was even in the realm of possibility. Full build at 20 minutes is not possible, even if you spent all your time farming jungle, which would be the fastest way to earn gold as a jungler. Ganking does not provide as much gold, and it provides less and less on each successive kill. However, the proposal does have some merits, as long as there are different rules for legendary items. Good luck on the Rift!

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