Can Sorcery's Next Keystone Be For DPS Mages?

CandiedYams··6 votes·3,829 views

Precision has 4 keystones. Domination is getting a 4th keystone soon. Can Sorcery PLEEEEEAAAASE be next Riot? I think DPS champions specifically deserve a more appropriate keystone than the ones that they usually take (Summon Aery and Arcane Comet).

In my opinion Summon Aery is best for utility champions and Arcane Comet is best for champions with reliable and spammable CC; However, they seem to be the default keystones for other champions just because there aren't better options. For example, Summon Aery is used on Teemo (a DPS champion) simply for poke, even though he has no ability that allows him to use the keystone for shielding allies. Another example: Arcane Comet is used on Brand (a DPS champion), which can be dodged easily unless he uses his ultimate or lands his q combo. Even though it is not the worst keystone on him, his CC is not reliable or spammable enough for comet to have as high of a hit rate as other Arcane Comet users.

Before Runes Reforged, Deathfire Touch and Thunderlord's Decree were both great options for DPS mages. While the new Scorch rune mimics the effect of Deathfire Touch to a certain degree, it's damage is weak and well.... it's only a rune. While the new Electrocute keystone mimics Thunderlord's Decree to a certain degree, it is not as good because it doesn't activate simply from DPS. I know I wasn't the only one who was disappointed to find out during Runes Reforged that Morgana's w skill and Galio's q skill doesn't activate Electrocute like it did Thunderlord's Decree.

_AP Galio hasn't been the same since... _

While I am not asking Riot to bring back Deathfire Touch or Thunderlord's Decree specifically, I believe that we need a sorcery keystone just as practical for DPS champions. Let's make DPS great again Riot!

23 Comments

Stacona3 votes

Arcane Comet has a cooldown refunding mechanic for landing spells against champions.

CandiedYams2 votes

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Arcane Comet has a cooldown refunding mechanic for landing spells against champions.

Yeah... a number of the keystones have cooldowns... Your point? [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Stacona2 votes

For those that make a reply that do not properly read the original comment.

EvanThomas1 votes

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Arcane Comet has a cooldown REFUNDING mechanic for landing spells against champions.

meaning that DPS mages get damage more often from comet because they use more spells.

Granted, the cooldown refund doesn't feel very high. I think it should be much higher to actually feel like a DPS mage keystone.

CandiedYams1 votes

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meaning that DPS mages get damage more often from comet because they use more spells.

Granted, the cooldown refund doesn't feel very high. I think it should be much higher to actually feel like a DPS mage keystone.

Yet DPS isn't CC so even when comet is activated by it, it can be dodged/side-stepped.

flibitydoo3 votes

Scorch isn't even a mimic of Deathfire Touch due to it's cooldown though.

it works just as well on xerath and ezreal as it does on singed or malzahar.

It's really just an "early game damage" rune to counterfoil the Gathering Storm rune. And the reason why it's a 1 tick dot is to make it visible and noticeable (to add clarity that you are taking damage from the rune).

Eedat3 votes

I don't have a link but I do know Riot said DFT is not coming back ever. Reason being it's insanely uninteractive. It's just.......more damage for absolutely nothing. No activation requirements or mechanic. DFT was replaced by Aery which is slightly more interactive in the sense that the closer you are to the target, the more procs you get. DFT isn't coming back

remakoro1 votes

So how about... GiViNg iT acTivAtIoN requirements? Holy shit how revolutionary. Like - Sustain dot for a period of time and something something. Or stay in combat and you shall be rewarded. What kind of fucking activation requirements has press the attack? Get 3 stacks by attacking 3 times? Holy shit. Totally not - JUST MORE DMG rune that requires you to do nothing... [zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Colton1472 votes

Revert Galio hot fix.

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

This. I want to be a Galio main again.

Pika Fox2 votes

Movespeed on death keystone. Riot pls.

Bjørnetjenesten2 votes

DPS mages need something that increases their damage the longer they fight, just like item 3151, or convert 20% to true damage, just like conqueror.

AirKingNeo1 votes

DPS mages have phase rush

DoT mages like teemo have aery

CandiedYams1 votes

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DPS mages have phase rush

DoT mages like teemo have aery

Yet Phase Rush is not used as often as the other keystones... Your second sentence is you repeating what I said?

AirKingNeo1 votes

pretty sure Cassio and Ryze take it

CandiedYams1 votes

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pretty sure Cassio and Ryze take it

OK, do you know what the word often means?

remakoro1 votes

So DoT mages basically have no Keystone and using one clearly intended for supports. (check its high value for shields compared to WHAT? on dmg) Aery also gives out your position. Exactly what i want to see on Teemo. Greatest Keystone EVER.

FrostQueensPlane1 votes

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CandiedYams1 votes

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I like how you're wrong about everything you post and now you're trying to claim teemo is a mage

what a beast

i mean xD he does magic damage right? not necesarily a mage though

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

Agreed. If magic damage makes you a mage, then Alistar Amumu Blitzcrank Braum Kayle Kennen KogMaw Leona etc. are all mages.

CandiedYams1 votes

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Agreed. If magic damage makes you a mage, then Alistar Amumu Blitzcrank Braum Kayle Kennen KogMaw Leona etc. are all mages.

[sg-kiko]

Killer of Night91 votes

I wished two rune... 1 to reward battle mage for stay in combact (karthus/lissandra/...) 2 to reward DoT that got refresh by same ability triggered every 0,5s (just choose a dot cd). (DFT does well the point 2 but it was just a hidden power). Battle mage has never got a keystone that reward their playstyle (stay in combat) and they just took burst access (electroshock) or poke (aery+comet). I wish a rune that work like conqueror/grasp but for mage.

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