Supports right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lucas Fehrwight·11/29/2019, 4:54:25 AM·22 votes·10,811 views

"Most of the gold these effects granted is still earned in the lower tiers and passive gold per 10 is up, so mid/late game economy is still buffed overall considering the gold made available by the free upgrades."

Are you sure?

35 Comments

Malignis11/29/2019, 11:40:05 AM10 votes

While I don't disagree I feel like the gold is kind of feast or famine now. Laning gold feels fine but once you start teamfights and your quest is done you become entirely reliant on assists and the 3 gold per 10 sec and map objectives.

The passive gold is enough to buy your vision wards but if your team is behind and you aren't getting many assists or objectives then it takes ages to get your items that you need to keep up with your team and actually provide meaningful utility.

The game feels even more snowbally now than ever in my opinion. The double rift heralds and the dragon souls/elder basically forcing the game to skew in the favour of the advantaged team makes comebacks much more difficult. Playing from behind is hard on everyone but it feels like a losing battle as a support trying to set/clear vision while being underleveled and dragging behind on items.

NTrumpWeTrust11/30/2019, 1:30:14 AM5 votes

Say it with me,

not having mana regen on spellthief feels like dog shit

Daddy Ants11/29/2019, 11:07:35 AM5 votes

Support right now is still fine.

Support players just don't want to accept that their role is a UTILITY ROLE and isn't meant to be carrying.

The role of a Support is to assist the team with utility such as Vision, healing, shielding, crowd control and offensive/defensive steroids.

Shahamut11/30/2019, 10:48:08 PM3 votes

I think its weird that new "supports" (gold efficient utility champions) also need to be carries... (assassins/marksmen)... specifically, Pyke and Senna.

Senna will scale indefinitely with range and AD. Getting her stacks is not that hard either. Pyke has a ton of safety and utility, but also has a resetting AoE execute. Not true damage, an execute. Cant shield it.

What happened to trade offs? Playing a damage focus support used to be risky if you didnt dominate lane phase, because you wouldn't have items later.

Why couldn't people appreciate carrying games through means that wasnt damage? Utility, initiation, VISION... sure this stuff is still in the game, but damage right now trumps all of it. Have lots of cc? Doesnt matter if there is no damage to follow up. You will still die. Have tons of damage? You only need a tiny bit of cc to obliterate people. See Qiyana lvl 3 one rotation her lane opponent with only a single undodgeable root.

AmWhaleIRL11/29/2019, 4:15:01 PM3 votes

Right?? Both support and JG (that aren't op Ekko) blow rn.

Beerstein11/30/2019, 10:33:12 PM3 votes

I found the missing gold and mana in the enemy JG ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Ivern

Eppidemic11/29/2019, 10:00:04 PM2 votes

It would be nice if we could get gp10 rune stats to compensate for losing gp10 runes from before runes reforged. I'm posting this on every "supports need more gold" thread. It would help a lot.

The Birch11/30/2019, 8:22:54 AM1 votes

I've been playing Vel'Koz and yoinking CS when nobody is around from lanes and jungle camps. Jungle camps respawn faster, and I feel it's definitely okay if your jungler is ahead enough to farm the enemy camps.

Reaper Soraka11/29/2019, 5:03:37 AM1 votes

idk I stopped noticing the difference. I did notice i don't have to poke or risk going in for coins to get gold now though.

I'm an executie for life!

Ekitaih11/29/2019, 9:30:05 AM1 votes

I dunno. I had two games that were nearly identical that were ten minutes apart. The only difference was the new support items and the old support items. With the old support item, I had 10700 gold. With the new support item, I had 10300 gold. Can you guess which was the longer game? Lmao.