Nidalee Needs a Buff

Purpl3Jungl3··5 votes·835 views

42% Winrate...

She's more of a fighter now than an assassin. when she jumps in, if she can't get the kill, she'll be in a bad spot considering her spears do less damage up close. I like nidalee as a champion a lot, but her ganks and clears aren't too good atm

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FuIlmute All4 votes

I like her dead.

She should stay that way.

Jon11741 votes

Do you stay up at night and remember the days where she was always picked and murdered the AD carry and Support

I Do

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Purpl3Jungl31 votes

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Do you stay up at night and remember the days where she was always picked and murdered the AD carry and Support

I Do

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Yeah but i dont play support or adc so im fine with that :)

Handy Sandy 4 votes

If ahri misses her charm, she can't get the kill and will be in a bad spot.

Can she get a buff too?

Purpl3Jungl32 votes

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If ahri misses her charm, she can't get the kill and will be in a bad spot.

Can she get a buff too?

Ahri's a mage. If she misses her charm, she won't be in a bad spot. She'll wait for it to cool down before trying again. There's a difference. Nid has to jump in and hope she can get a oneshot. Ahri doesn't have to jump in on top of someone, she's pretty safe

Pupel1 votes

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Ahri's a mage. If she misses her charm, she won't be in a bad spot. She'll wait for it to cool down before trying again. There's a difference. Nid has to jump in and hope she can get a oneshot. Ahri doesn't have to jump in on top of someone, she's pretty safe

Talon Shaco Rengar all suffer from that too. Its called counterplay not underperformance

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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Ahri's a mage. If she misses her charm, she won't be in a bad spot. She'll wait for it to cool down before trying again. There's a difference. Nid has to jump in and hope she can get a oneshot. Ahri doesn't have to jump in on top of someone, she's pretty safe

Considering her W and R go to people she autoattacks, she has to be pretty close. Very few abilities in the game are longer than her autoattack range, which her w and r's seeking blasts will go to.

Purpl3Jungl31 votes

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Considering her W and R go to people she autoattacks, she has to be pretty close. Very few abilities in the game are longer than her autoattack range, which her w and r's seeking blasts will go to.

no... her W and R attack the nearest champion. this comment is entirely wrong. if ahri misses her charm, she can back out; easy as that. she's not obliged to continue. If nidalee makes a bad choice and goes in, she's doomed for. Ahri has her ult which can get her to safety, even though she's already really safe

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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no... her W and R attack the nearest champion. this comment is entirely wrong. if ahri misses her charm, she can back out; easy as that. she's not obliged to continue. If nidalee makes a bad choice and goes in, she's doomed for. Ahri has her ult which can get her to safety, even though she's already really safe

Her R goes to the nearest target, which is why she usually fights someone pretty close.

Her W goes to the enemy that she last attacked with a basic attack.

bad arcade kitty3 votes

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If ahri misses her charm, she can't get the kill and will be in a bad spot.

Can she get a buff too?

ahri can jump away with her ult though, unlike nidalee also her charm is ranged as well as her other spells

SnugglePuggle943 votes

I agree, she needs some help.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

almost 100% banrate in competitive and she needs buffs? did you forget your "/s"?

SwiftKitten884 votes

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almost 100% banrate in competitive and she needs buffs? did you forget your "/s"?

um.... did you forget that worlds was FIVE patches ago in 6.18 ? she got TWO MASSIVE NERFS and her winrate has dropped TWELVE PERCENT since how she was in worlds.
that is like saying... "Omg AP MasterYi is OP he needs more nerfs".. yeah that was.. i think.. 4 seasons ago? get with the times bro. there are the things called PATCHES... and in rare* occurrences they sometimes makes changes to champions..

*rare: as in every single freaking patch ever released...

GULAG 4 U1 votes

oops, did they nerf her? Nope

SwiftKitten884 votes

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oops, did they nerf her? Nope

[slayer-jinx-unamused] you may want to recheck the patch notes...

ill even help you out. try looking in patch 6.21 for the word "nidalee" and try looking in 6.22 for the words "strength of the ages"

have fun... [slayer-jinx-wink]

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Run thunderlord's instead?

She wasn't nerfed hard neither. She got +1 seconds on certain CDS, it's nothing large. Stop crying

SwiftKitten883 votes

{quoted} She wasn't nerfed hard

12% winrate drop

https://youtu.be/zKhEw7nD9C4?t=80

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Still highly picked at high elos, bronze doesn't fcking matter

SwiftKitten883 votes

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Still highly picked at high elos, bronze doesn't fcking matter

... 42 % IS HIGH ELO https://champion.gg/champion/Nidalee THIS IS PLAT +

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Lmao thinking champion GG is reliable

Klavinova1 votes

Don't respond to this troll, just look at his name, ExtremeNoobElite? He's just butthurt from getting shafted by Nidalee previously or something. Meanwhile I'm a happy rek'sai main with courage of the colossus, and removal of SotA let's me occasionally go warrior rek'sai with thunderlord's when I'm feeling silly.

Marshbouy1 votes

He's not a troll. He's smart most of the time and i know him fairly well.

Dammit now rylais is getting nerfed too, nidalee is so fucked.

SnugglePuggle943 votes

That "1 second" can be a game changer in terms of life and death, bro. And thunderlord's majorly decreases her survivability especially now with the harder jungle camps and all the damage going around these days. I for one tried it and don't like it as she can't go down the Resolve tree for a keystone as CoC won't work, she has no form of hard CC, isn't a tank support to use Bond of Stone, and doesn't 1 v 1 with auto attacks for using Grasp of the Undying effectively.

So yes I think she needs a buff, seeing how her win rate has dropped considerably and is being outperformed by many of the champs she usually does well against.

Purpl3Jungl31 votes

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oops, did they nerf her? Nope

yes they did... twice in the past few months

SwiftKitten882 votes

i am going to start this off with, yes.. nidalee does need a serious buff to be made viable.

however i disagree that she is more of a "fighter" now. nidalee is a burst assassin, if she lands a spear she has 2 choices: 1: go in 2: don't go in

if you choose not to you in... you do so knowing that you will not be able to engage anyone for 6 more seconds

if you choose to go in, you are committing to either get the kill and get out, or deal damage and get out, or that you choose to go in when you shouldn't have and you died.

the issue with nidalee right now is.. becuase of the removal of strength of the ages.. she has 300 less hp than she normally would during that past 2 years

so if you DO go in you are MUCH more likely to die. this means if you make wrong decision and go in and keep dieing, your nidalee winrate is going to drop.

but the issue is.. BECAUSE nidalee CAN'T choose to go in again until she lands ANOTHER spear.

and even then.. the same choice arises.. is it safe to go in?

the issue is frankly.. it is almost NEVER safe to go in anymore... which pretty much means all nidalee can do is throw spears all day. the amount of targets you can kill by going in decreases dramatically with that hp you used to have.

ok so lets say you DO know how to properly play nidalee and EVERY time you go in you get a kill. well the fact is even if yo make the correct choice to go in every time and every time you go in you get a kill. it still means that kills you would have been able to get in 6.21 and above you can no longer get because you died if you tried instead of surviving with a sliver of hp.

so if you go in you die... and if you don't go in.. your pretty much only useful for one single target linear skillshot ability every 6 seconds.. and since this isn't season 3 nidalee.. if you DON'T have the AP.. your spears wont do shit for damage.. when then means you cant get kills, so you don't snowball, which means your useless...

so no matter what happens... you aren't really useful anymore

you make bad decisions, you die.. and you get behind you make good decisions.. you don't die.. but you don't get enough kills and thus gold to stay relevant so you're still pretty much useless to your team.

so either way... you're pretty much useless

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