Could someone talk about other junglers that was viable last season but may/may not be viable now?

abdul569·Oct 31, 2016·4 votes·603 views

I am not talking about the standard but rather the not so standard junglers Such as:

(any adc junglers such as graves/quinn etc)

All of these were viable last season but with new changes to the jungle it may not be the case anymore. Can Anyone on the PBE test them out and see if they still work? Or maybe other champions may emerge to be a good jungler (last preseason quinn and graves suddenly became beast at jungling for egsample)

15 Comments

dominusxOct 31, 20161 votes

Riven is still fine she has tons of aoe to clear camps. i havent watch any stonewall videos on the clear path's i suggest you watch Stonewall008 for everything that has to do with jungle and jungle champs tier lists etc

RalanrOct 31, 20161 votes

He's done videos on all the champions he can take through the jungle (though I disagree on where he categorized some champions).

All in all it seems the new krugs have a really big impact on jungle clears. Sometimes it being better to avoid them on your first clear.

ProfDrDeathOct 31, 20161 votes

What Stonewall did not pay heed to in his videos, though, is how the Gromp and Krugs are going to spawn at 1:55 now instead of 1:40 like the other monsters. Meaning, you will not be able to start either of these two.

RalanrOct 31, 20161 votes

True, but he started at the color buffs every time.

Honestly starting at red is going to be awkward because you'll waste some time backtracking to krugs. But I only want to start Red on Sion because I'm sure that at level 2 I can clear raptors with ease.

ProfDrDeathOct 31, 20161 votes

Not every time, at least not in the initial video.

I think that you should be able to go Red->Rap->Wol->Blue->Gro->Scuttles/gank, then port and start at Krugs with the next clear. You're probably right in backtracking taking too much time.

abdul569Oct 31, 20161 votes

ok thanks, will check it out

VoidStaresBackOct 31, 20161 votes

Kayle might still work because of her AOE damage and self-sustain, although without a PBE account I can't test this.

Cho will almost certainly still work, what with passive AOE damage and the new smite changes making most champion's clears healthier, on top of his passive giving him little boosts of health and mana throughout the clear like usual (especially the new raptor camp).

NoblewindOct 31, 20161 votes

Kench jungle can be very good since his most recent changes. You struggle until you get some levels and attack speed but basically you go Cinderhulk then triforce then whatever you need. You do a lot of damage with a lower CD teleport, great scaling, great 1v1 and extremely annoying during grouped fights.

EcchiOtakuTMOct 31, 20161 votes

Since when were any of these unnerfed junglers not any good? Hell you added some to the list who were BUFFED for the jungler tf.

abdul569Oct 31, 20162 votes

I never said that they were or weren't good, just saying that due to changes some of them might be better and some of them might be worse at the role (as with any jungle changes). I just wanted feedback on which ones fall into which category. If all of them have improved in their jungling, then great! If some new ones emerge then I would like to know about them. Just curious, that's all

EcchiOtakuTMOct 31, 20161 votes

Ah ok.

L Psy KongrooOct 31, 20161 votes

Yorick jungle actually got quite a bit better with the changes. More small monsters at Krugs and Chickens means more graves, which means more ghouls to help with clearing.

Similarly, Sion won't mind much because he has great AOE clear anyway, and more small monsters means his max health grows faster.

The Yetii RiderOct 31, 20161 votes

Not worth discussing yet because Meddler hinted at changing Cinderhulk during the preseason (probably 6.23) and we can't make any calls til we know if that's happening and how.

DunkinNoobsOct 31, 20161 votes

MasterYi is set to be completely fucked with the removal of krug buff, longer camp respawns, and slower clear times overall. Not to mention that item 3142 will be shit on him now too.

WoonStruckOct 31, 20161 votes

Stonewall has most of the people you'd ever try to jungle with during S7 on his youtube. If you want to see their clears, check them out in their respective class group video.

For those of you that are lazy:

Ekko Non-existent now. He dies with just about every clear path. Diana Better clear, worse level 6 time. Irelia Better Chogath Better Fizz Like Ekko, but barely manageable if you REALLY want to. DrMundo God-Tier again Kayle Better Malphite Better Kled Non-Existent now unless they allow him to get courage via jungle. Maokai Much better, but his W range change from back in season 3 or 4 still makes him a pretty lackluster ganker overall. Malzahar Better if executed correctly Mordekaiser Much better Poppy Better Riven Better Rumble Better Sion Better Shen Better TahmKench Worse; basically only a decent support after his latest changes. Twitch Probably worse; haven't seen if W+E clears small raptors, or how much damage he takes in the new jungle. Trundle Much better Yorick Much better Volibear About the same