Like, i play a decent chunk of league, and I've maybe seen zz'rot built less than 10 times, and Ohm maybe one time this season.
From my perspective, people are just using the removal of these items as an excuse to complain about Riot
They're unpopular because they're weak. The fact they're weak is a problem and the fact Riot is removing the items instead of buffing them is a problem.
The only times I ever built zzrot where when I was on some kind of tank and I wanted both the stats. The active was only secondary.
And I generally don't play tanks.
Because the remove of these items just reduce the options and diversity the game has? I didn't build Ohmwrecker, that doesn't mean I want it to be removed.
I used to build the jungle item that transforms in Dirk after steal enemy camps, they removed it for an unknown reason.
I used to build Zzrot against some match ups, as a way to avoid fight in toplane, defend the base when I had a lot of gold. Apart of the strategies you could make with that. Same with banner or command.
I can honestly say that zzrot is a go to item for objective control or even counter pushing lanes so that you don't have to sit in one lane, i use it on udyr at times and it has won me so many games, the other item i don't really bother buying, because i can just run under tower and tank 3-4 shots of a tower get a kill or if im running still be able to live. 2 situational items that work well against certain team comps or blind players, watched how many games of trick2g and he abuses the fact that not everyone sees zzrot when its placed, and he wins games off of it because no one clears it. It provides that extra push you need in a side lane or solo lane, even can slap it on singed or nasus and it does work for you, plus the stats of armor and mr, hp regen as well make you somewhat un killable.
We did use them. They just weren't core on any build.
We're you LOOKING for them? A lot of times I need to ping my enemy ZZ'rot, nobody even noticed...
The items definitely saw play, just not a LOT of play. If I make an item in %3 of my matches, that's still a lot of matches, and I like it there for when I need it.
There have been periods over the past 3 years where I built ZZ'rot almost every match. (Should I be embarrassed to admit this?) I know another player who ALWAYS builds it, regardless.
We wouldn't be crying and screaming if Riot had just said, "we're changing the active on these items". If they had... like... tried. They left these items alone for years, which was fine also, and then suddenly yanked them. Not nice.
OK. I am going to tell you the truth.
Often when RIot makes changes like these, they plan them in advance and tell us about them.
This was not done in this case. They weren't going to hear any discussion. These items conflict strongly with whatever they have in mind for Season 10 and the map changes and would make no sense there at all, breaking the changes.
This is why they are being summarily deleted without discussion. The items were actually just fine until now.
(Or maybe nobody wanted to recode Point Runner for the new maps?)
(Yeah, this is sounding better to me. Point Runner would need to be re-done, too much work, nobody uses these items, screw them.)
I mean... why would I use an item when there are others that are clearly better? Why would I put my team and myself at a disadvantage by building a weak item that isn't much of a powerspike? Seems to me you are using this topic as an excuse to complain about people complaining about the removal of these items.
Yep, everyone wants to be a hipster. Remember when the TT removal was announced a few months ago? Some complaints were genuine TT players coming out of the woodwork, but others were phonies talking about how awesome TT is and how they wish it could stay because it's their favorite mode EVAR when they haven't played a single TT match in 2019.
This is why i hate youtubers. Because not a lot of youtubers dont use xxx = nobody uses xxx.
When i play top tank im always using zz rot. Its easy lane push item.
