Kassadin is a joke now and i miss him

Godman873·7/23/2018, 4:53:10 PM·8 votes·5,127 views

I am at work on mobile so thos wont be very in depth but here we go;

Passive; this is... not great. 15% reduced magic damage and ignorimg unit collision.. this is supposed to get a melee mage woth weak poke through early game? No.

Q: Low damage early 65-185 (70%), slow projectile speed and a magic shield that only works once it connects that gives a laughable 60min 160max base shield for 30% ap ratio woth a range that most mages can outrange or damave yoh before the shield goes up.

W: its.... honestly fine. I like this ability but you really dont feel that bonus 20+10% damage on basics.

E: 50 to 90% slow with.. 180 base damage and 60% scaling.... and you can omly cast this if 6 other spells were recently cast and the cooldown is over.

R: this thing is why he sucks. Its been so overpowered that he had entire builds around it but now it has gutted range and the mana useage per use scalez 50/100/200/400/1600/3200 by the fourth use you're at such a high manacost it may as well only have a max amount of charges but while the mana doubles only 40/50/60 damage is added... to an 80/100/120 (80%) damage ability....

My idea: up his base numbers at max level, and swap his passive and 1. His 1 should redice magic damage an afflicted target deals and then the shield should show up after he takes X amount of his % hp within a short time to protect him from being bursted early.

And just make his ultimate a charge based system rather than this artifical 1600/3200 mana wall

17 Comments

Diana hole7/23/2018, 5:39:15 PM5 votes

fuck kassadin. He's such a cancer champion when he's meta/op.

Craktite7/23/2018, 8:30:57 PM4 votes

His ap ratio are really hight oO That why he is completely op late game, but weak early.

La Bello7/23/2018, 9:16:45 PM2 votes

"and I miss him"

I certainly dont. are you kidding me? I still have nightmares about permaban Katarina and Kass of old ruining soloQ.

dont buff the fucker until you actually REWORK him to not just be a highly mobile statchecker. Kass is HIGH overdue for a entire VGU imo (I find his current visuals boring tbh. he looks like a purple shirtless Zurg from Buzz Lightyear).

Lots of things you could introduce to his gameplay to make it a bit more manageable to play against. like for instance what if he can only R in a specific area around people he recently damaged like Kaisa R. that way he isn't as safe at all points of the game and impossible to catch?

currently due to the state of Kass kit if Kass is really viable then NOBODY else is having fun playing against him. kinda like Caitlyn DrMundo Teemo Hecarim Janna Rumble

Noor Sakata7/23/2018, 10:11:13 PM2 votes

I mean , Kassadin is supposed to counter Immobile mages , the champions that aren't being played anymore

Fertsa7/23/2018, 10:28:51 PM2 votes

Kassadin item 3124 item 3508 fite meh

also the ult mana cost seems to be thematic from what i can tell, as a rioter said he made the mask to prevent himself from going mad from the visions in the void, and even the brief time spent in the void during his ult takes a massive toll on his mental state

Fízz v27/23/2018, 5:16:32 PM2 votes

Passive; this is... not great. 15% reduced magic damage and ignorimg unit collision.. this is supposed to get a melee mage woth weak poke through early game? No.

meanwhile Fizz passive lel

koshkyra7/23/2018, 9:00:49 PM1 votes

Correction: kassadins q shield doesnt start when it connects on a target, it starts on ability cast.

Madsin257/23/2018, 5:10:59 PM1 votes

Just think about the state he was in right after minion aggro changes.

You know before they massively buffed his entire kit.

He is in a good place now.

Teridax687/24/2018, 11:12:37 AM1 votes

There used to be a time where Kassadin was once considered the most champion in the game, bar none. How times have changed...

I think the long-standing problem with Kass is that he's stuck halfway between being a bruiser and an assassin. He has a lot of anti-mage tools, but several of them rely on him straight-up eating damage, namely his innate and Q magic shield. He also has some pretty reliable damage once he gets close (no part of his combo is really avoidable), which makes counterplay against him fairly tricky. He has CC, which I think deserves to be developed upon, but altogether his kit's spread out across a few too many things, and lacks the interactivity needed to make him more powerful. Additionally, making Kass reliant on mana was a terrible idea, as there's a high amount of overlap between mana and health, which again pushes him into bruiser territory.

What I think needs to change is for Kassadin to completely lose his durability, in exchange for more active ways of completely avoiding or otherwise disabling incoming attacks. Kass I think has a valid niche as an anti-mage assassin, and if implemented properly, he could even have his old silence back. Ideally, he should be more interactive, and so enemies should be able to outplay his combo in some way or another, but in exchange his mobility should be far less restricted, at least while zipping around fights.

Giga Baboon7/23/2018, 5:42:34 PM1 votes

You're late, kassadin is back with electrocute. Go google the kass subreddit and watch that one chinese streamer play into every AD match up in the game and win lane (yeah it includes Talon and Pantheon because electrocute is that well designed).

Khristophoros7/23/2018, 6:43:15 PM1 votes

I want a proper Kassadin VGU. The way they nerfed him at the start of season 4 may as well have been a remake except it made his kit less interesting and less fun. He also got a minor VU but it really didn't make much of a difference because the kit is still really simple so there's nothing special to do a VU around.

Ghosł 7/23/2018, 7:30:06 PM1 votes

AGREED. they ruined kass. I loved that champ until they updated his visuals and then nerfed him.

Anatera7/23/2018, 7:57:18 PM1 votes

I don't miss him because I played immobile mages a lot and he was always annoying, but I'd still take him over today's Zed and Talon in a heartbeat.

Warlord Rhinark7/23/2018, 8:11:35 PM1 votes

He literally just got buffed though?