Man jungle exp is actually terrible, why am I getting out leveled by Mid and Top laners. A full clear, with both crabs if lucky, only puts you at like level four; half way to level five. And by the time you hit that, Mid and Top is level six-seven?
Zullar3 votesI was playing with a friend yesterday and he died top lane 1v1. I said I'd come help but looked at levels and he was lv9 and I was lv5 as jg... so I told him sorry can't help. :[
I think the jungle item should add more damage and automatically be AOE (even if you don't have any AOE attack) and buff jg monsters health to compensate if needed. The goal being more equalized clear speed for all junglers... otherwise you are kind of limited at the moment on what is viable.
IP Masquerena1 votesMaybe play something that doesn't take a week to finish a clear?
Nocturne for example can finish a whole clear with proper patching at kiting before the first scuttle spawns, so if a lamer is level 7 at 3:15 m then maybe their opponent is hard inting and not jg xp problems.
GreenKnight4 votes[{quoted}](name=IP Masquerena,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Zp8AvcLE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-16T13:15:03.301+0000)
Maybe play something that doesn't take a week to finish a clear?
Nocturne for example can finish a whole clear with proper patching at kiting before the first scuttle spawns, so if a lamer is level 7 at 3:15 m then maybe their opponent is hard inting and not jg xp problems.
Or maybe make it so that we can play what we want to play?
I don't like Nocturne, Lee, or any of those fucking reworks for example. What if i want to play Rammus?
IP Masquerena1 votesThen play Rammus. He has a good clear speed and his a stupidly strong hanker and can even 1v1 certain junglers.
Your first clear even on off meta junglers shouldn't take you longer than 4 minutes since the moment you started, and unless an enemy is feeding, the lamer can't be level 7 at 5 mins in game.
So if you don't play Veigar jg or such, all viable junglers have the capabilities to clear before 5 mins, some faster than others but still. So if you finish the first clear when laners are level 7, pick a jungler.
Crescent Dusk1 votes[{quoted}](name=IP Masquerena,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Zp8AvcLE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-16T13:15:03.301+0000)
Maybe play something that doesn't take a week to finish a clear?
Nocturne for example can finish a whole clear with proper patching at kiting before the first scuttle spawns, so if a lamer is level 7 at 3:15 m then maybe their opponent is hard inting and not jg xp problems.
lol I call BS on whole clear. You get 3 camps before scuttle spawns, 4 if you got a good leash.
IP Masquerena1 votesNow now, you miss one detail, that being a mirror. YOU can get 3 camps before scuttle spawns, 4 if YOU get a good leash.
Others, well, let's say they can do better:
https://youtu.be/dVDxGBGDplc?t=174
Time stamped showing Cuzz finishing a full clear at 3:20, and being called "avg clear time", soon after it shows him finishing another full clear at 2:57. Watching the game timer as for this one they don't mention it, it shows in a 3rd replay finishing a full clear right as scuttle spawns.
Now what I'm expecting is for someone (not you specifically) to get offended and go cry that just because he can do it doesn't mean others should have to do it to have success.
