Best & Worst Champ Passive

Ch0c0lateJesus·Jun 11, 2015·3 votes·3,861 views

To me, one sign of a good design in a champ is their passive. Some champs have passives that flow with their kit, they affect the way you play the champ at the core mechanical level, passive is a good example. And, as controversial as it is; passive is what defines her.

Compare that to some passives that just feel tacked on; like the devs finished a champ and then remembered "oh, we have to give it a passive." This isnt only about how useful it is, it's about how creative and fun it is. Nobody is going to complain about some extra defenses from passive, but it's still boring as hell. Same with the passive. Yeah it's handy in early lane, and you may actually take it into consideration a few times before you get a mana item and forget she even has a passive.

So what passive do you think is really well designed and/or powerful, and which ones are boring/useless?

56 Comments

MunchingDaPotatoJun 11, 201511 votes

Zilean Worst passive ever It gives you and your lane partner 1 caster minion worth of xp every 3 waves

3TWarriorJun 11, 20151 votes

I have to agree with this...now if his passive were to give his allies cooldown reduction...that wuold be awesome!

SolusInCadereJun 12, 20151 votes

Eh, I don't know if ADCs really want CD-R, though I'm sure some ( Lucian , Ezreal ) would enjoy it very much

lightdragoon88Jun 11, 20156 votes

Best: Braum

There is just something about you and your team working together to stun someone that really shows you do something as an support.

Worst: Renekton Syndra

They...really don't have a passive. Renekton gain more fury when he below half health but how often do you notice it? Syndra passive other champs get just by leveling up their skills normally and until level 9 when she hopefully max out a skill she literally doesn't have a passive.

SolusInCadereJun 12, 20151 votes

Lol, when I logged in to comment on this post, this was my comment

Dunkrius2gJun 11, 20155 votes

Best:

Just look at that beautiful drop of.. blood

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120519062137/leagueoflegends/images/9/9b/Hemorrhage.jpg

KãtãrinãJun 11, 20154 votes

Zed Annie have strong passives that work with there kit (even iconic for katarina)

KogMaw Zyra Don't think the passive is to great. If you go deathless it is worthless. As kog you aren't trying to be the center of a fight so why would you run round then do true damage if youd probable have died from afar? I also just personally don't like zyras.

SolusInCadereJun 12, 20151 votes

Zyra's could be useful, especially for a support, because it's a projectile. For Kogsters thou, you're right. Isn't he supposed to be some super long ranged poke guy? When is he gonna be in melee rang,e unless an assassin jumped him, and if that happened, the assassin has already done its job in the teamfight... :/

LuggJun 11, 20154 votes

Yasuo

Having one great passive wasn't enough. They had to give him two to make him even more OP and toxic.

BetaDude40Jun 11, 20151 votes

Seriously, if they had just gotten rid of the Bolshevik double-crit passive, Yasuo would have not needed to receive nearly as many nerfs as he had gotten. This passive didn't help him, it's part of the reason it destroyed him*.

*Comparing to Yasuo on launch. He's still powerful given good conditions, but it is so much harder to make himself useful

LuggJun 11, 20151 votes

The problem with Yas is that he is very OP in some team comps and very UP in others.

SolusInCadereJun 12, 20151 votes

Finally, someone accurately recounts the death of the wind ninja

Laughing FishJun 11, 20153 votes

Best: Viktor

Worst: Zyra

Chespin2013Jun 11, 20153 votes

no gif from you laughing fish what world is this?

Laughing FishJun 11, 20153 votes

http://collegetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/what-have-i-done.gif

BetaDude40Jun 11, 20151 votes

Er, why is only some portion of the room slowly moving behind him? Velkoz _O

DisasterSolaJun 11, 20152 votes

Eh. I hate power creep, personally. So my opinion is Diana vs ekko passive. Ekkos passive is just.... bad. Super bad. You might as well have put his passive on W instead of the CSing passive its got currently. Black kid dont need three passives just because hes black.

JustMyBassCannonJun 11, 20152 votes

Diana's passive does more damage than Ekko's, and deals AoE damage instead of a slow. It also has bonus AS attached.

And what's Ekko's 3rd passive, huh?

DisasterSolaJun 11, 20152 votes

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Diana's passive does more damage than Ekko's, and deals AoE damage instead of a slow. It also has bonus AS attached.

And what's Ekko's 3rd passive, huh?

Ah. Youre right; for some reason i thought Diana had like a 0.5 ratio. Doesnt change the fact that Diana actually has to land her autoattacks to proc hers ^^'

And ekko has... +Damage after three hits

movespeed steal after three hits
W passive

JustMyBassCannonJun 11, 20152 votes

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And ekko has...

Damage after three hits

movespeed steal after three hits

W passive

3-second cooldown before it can affect the same target

DisasterSolaJun 11, 20152 votes

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3-second cooldown before it can affect the same target

Doesnt really matter because i was listing individual passives :P thats just a cooldown, not a passive itself.

ItsStoutJun 11, 20153 votes

No, he means that's ehat your ignoring when comparing it to Diana's.

AnonagonJun 11, 20156 votes

Don't point out the AS like its a good thing: its a hack Riot uses to give her lower base, and gutter her scaling with AS items like Nashor's.

JustMyBassCannonJun 11, 20152 votes

Unlike other champions, who start at 0% and work their way up to 50-60% innate bonus AS, Diana starts at 20% and goes up to ~50% innate AS. She starts with an innate AS advantage, actually the highest level 1 AS without items. Sure, it's not a game-shattering advantage, but that's still worth noticing.
Unlike Ekko, Diana scales well with AS items because she's an actual fighter instead of a skirmisher. She needs to stand in the fight and keep fighting to be effective, instead of needing to jump in and out of combat.

AnonagonJun 11, 20153 votes

You missed the point

By taking away some of what should be base AS and giving it to her as "hey she gets free attack speed!" her scaling with attack speed items is much less than it could be

JustMyBassCannonJun 11, 20151 votes

You're going off-topic.

It's a comparison of champions' passives, and I was pointing out that Diana's passive actually has a lot more power in it than people are liable to give credit.

Sure, Diana could use a buff. Being AS-based for damage, but being in the bottom 10% of champions for innate AS is bad. But that's not on the subject of comparing the strength of champions' passives.

SolusInCadereJun 12, 20151 votes

The fix is EZ too, just have the 'free' AS from her passive increase at certain levels, then give her a normal AS. That way she still has a little boost early, but hen also gets much needed AS during teamfights.

Sometimes, Riot confuses me with the changes that do and do not make...

LordGeovanniJun 12, 20151 votes

idk about ekko's 3rd passive but his passive is broken that burst when he has items does a siginificant amount of damage slows and speeds ekko up vs champions and activates spell effects like ludens echo and has a 3 second cooldown (far too low a cool down even if they cut some power from the passive) other than his passive ekkos kit is pretty balanced

JustMyBassCannonJun 12, 20151 votes

Every other 3rd-hit passive has no cooldown, and some of them have higher damage potential.

Now, I'll agree that Ekko's passive is too effective right now, but it's not broken.

LordGeovanniJun 12, 20151 votes

no other 3 hit passive has the damage potinetal in one go than ekkos most of his spells proc a hit he gets a speed boost and a slow and apon activation its counted as a spell effect and procs ludens ekko (test it with 3 basic attacks )

JustMyBassCannonJun 12, 20151 votes

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no other 3 hit passive has the damage potential in one go than ekkos

Ekko's passive gets 231 +70% AP damage.

Diana's passive gets 250 +80% AP damage. It doesn't proc on abilities and it doesn't have a slow, but it has more damage, no cooldown and AoE.

Diana's passive has more damage potential than Ekko's. It's not set up to burst enemies, but it has more damage potential.

LordGeovanniJun 14, 20151 votes

afull ap dianna cant stack as fast as a full ap ekko even with the 3 second cool down

JustMyBassCannonJun 14, 20151 votes

Except a full AP Diana grabs Nashor's Tooth, so while she can't hit 3 stacks as quickly, she can do it more times than Ekko in the downtime. She can also prime it on a different target.

MLDzXnRRRJun 11, 20152 votes

Azir - 2 passives, not so great, but 2>1; Blitzcrank - very fun and tricky passive Evelynn - while she in not Rikimaru, it's the closest we can get to permastealth Irelia - better nerf her Karthus - another fun passive Poppy = OP Yasuo - 2 passives

Varus - the crappiest steroid in the game

JustMyBassCannonJun 11, 20151 votes

Jayce's passive is lame. 1.25 seconds of bonus MS, only gained when swapping forms.

supes the lostJun 11, 20151 votes

doesn't Jayce's give you a defence reducing attack on your next auto attack too?

JustMyBassCannonJun 11, 20151 votes

Nope, that's a part of his R.

When switched to Hammer form, it deals bonus magic damage. When switched to Cannon form, it shreds Armor and MR.

McAllisterJun 11, 20151 votes

Best: Poppy

Worst: Varus (but there are plenty of bad ones)

Most in danger of being changed due to Riot's design philosophy: Vlad (also due to the fact that they hate him)

Most in danger of being changed just based on history: Taric

"Is not actually a passive" award: Azir

"Garen's passive makes me feel bad about my life choices" award: Mundo

"Damn, you mean I need to get within smelling range of these peasants?" award: Xerath (but seriously, it's really well-designed given his kit)

SolusInCadereJun 12, 20151 votes

Um, Azir guns bonus AS based on CD-R, that's a passive for ya

SnugglePuggle94Jun 11, 20151 votes

I hate Yasuo passive but I think Khazix is a great one

IcyPepperJun 11, 20151 votes

best: Bard for fun factor, on both teams (sorry Kalista) worst: Thresh is less fun

I'm not judging by power, but by fun.

stealthfox94Jun 11, 20151 votes

Best Katarina Tristana Worst Renekton Taric Gangplank

PæanJun 12, 20151 votes

best Shaco 20% more damage from every attack and ability when positioned behind. What else could an assassin want? worst Zac other than the %hp regen per blob which honestly more of a tooltip than an obvious passive. Purple smite completely negates his revive. 450 gold means zac has no passive. And the cooldown is crazy at almost all points of the game, because it doesn't scale down.

SolusInCadereJun 12, 20151 votes

Honestly, his revive passive needs to go away and they need to buff his blob passive. You're right, his revive is crap, it is the most unreliable, and has the longest cooldown.

PæanJun 12, 20151 votes

If you could just control all the blobs and have them run away in different directions then that would be awesome. imagine a couple blobs surviving the time limit so you have 2 mini Zacs running away trying to reconnect.

Drunk RummateJun 12, 20151 votes

Twitch has the worst passive imo. That extra damage is hardly noticeable, especially when other champs have incredibly useful passives like Lucian's

SachabotJun 12, 20151 votes

Worst Passive? Teemo's E. Boring as hell, just kind of a pain but not really impactful. Basically Teemo in a nutshell, I guess.

SolusInCadereJun 12, 20151 votes

In terms of integration into the kit, I'd say the worst would be Shyvana , DrMundo (yes, I know it's to give him regen cause he is a health caster, but they could make it more interesting), Fiddlesticks , and anything else that is just some base effect that is always on.

Whereas champs like Braum , Draven , Rengar , Tryndamere , that have their kits designed around their passive and their passive designed around their kits, those end up being the best

This is not judging from strait up power, but more for inttegration into the champion and its kit, as well as the amount of interactivity it provides between the summoner and their champion