Can we buff Karthus' auto animation/missile speed

abdul569·Feb 8, 2017·49 votes·2,309 views

My god is it slow. Even Morde can outrun them.

26 Comments

ChoaruFeb 8, 20178 votes

I'm pretty sure that Karthus's Q animation takes the same amount of time as his AA. At this point, with his cd on his Q, I would just consider his Q a very awkward AA.

Elite4RunnerFeb 8, 20176 votes

But significantly stronger

dominusxFeb 8, 20176 votes

Anivia too lmfao

abdul569Feb 8, 20171 votes

yes, quite alot of champions have unreasonably slow auto missile speeds.

Spaceman5pffFeb 9, 20171 votes

Those are the ones you are supposed to build attack speed on.

The goal is to see how many AA's you can have in the air at once. My record is 3.

Naomi CoffeeGoatFeb 8, 20175 votes

Didn't they actually work a little bit on Anivia's auto attack some time ago? Like S6 some time ago.

SpoofghoulFeb 8, 20175 votes

Rito: alright let's do this mini rework

patch 7.4

his ult now is a basic attack, for compensation though his basic attack now ults everyone

we will do touch up work somewhere in patch 19.7

Fondling GemsFeb 8, 20174 votes

See while buffing the missile speed would work buffing the animation wouldn't because it would mean you could cancel it earlier. This wouldn't be a huge issue except for one thing, if you are spamming Q at max speed Karthus currently cannot auto. You have to delay the Q casts to auto between them. Buffing his animation would actually make him be able to attack between Q casts which would add a ton of power to his kit. (Compare a champion who autos 2-3 times in as many times in a fight as he casts Q. That is a big buff to his damage output.)

Currently the only way to do it is to delay Q casts, which means you are sacrificing some damage, or run some AS on him, which also sacrifices Q damage.

Elite4RunnerFeb 8, 20173 votes

... why are you even trying to auto attack with Karthus?

Use his Q

SckullzzFeb 8, 20173 votes

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Use his Q

That's what I was going to say lol his q is stupid low on mana and does double damage to solo targets.

Big LincolnFeb 8, 20171 votes

item 3100 obviously

Elite4RunnerFeb 9, 20171 votes

You being sarcastic?

MelledoneusFeb 8, 20175 votes

When you're low on mana in lane, you use autos to get good mana back from his E passive.

Elite4RunnerFeb 9, 20171 votes

Karthus is typically a Tear stacker. With Tear you are refunded 15% of the mana consumed (25% for Archangel's and Seraph's.) The base cost for Lay Waste is 14 + 6 per rank. Refunding 15% restores 2.1 + 0.9 per rank (25% is 3.5 + 1.5 per rank), and accumulating a stack grants a permanent +4 (+8) mana to his total mana pool. Ranks in Defile cause him to also restore 13 + 7 per rank mana upon killing a unit while toggled off.

So he actually has the ability to restore more mana than he consumes by last hitting a minion with his Q.

MelledoneusFeb 9, 20172 votes

But tear isn't a starting item.

Elite4RunnerFeb 9, 20171 votes

Even without tear.

Rank 1 Q costs 20 mana

Rank 1 E restores 20 mana upon killing an enemy unit while toggled off.

If you last hit with Q, it's FREE

MelledoneusFeb 9, 20171 votes

Yes, but sometimes you need to stockpile your mana back up in preparation for another trade. Karthus needs his mana to use his more mana-intensive W slow, and the Q harass takes only a bit of mana per cast, but it adds up.

Karthus isn't the most mana-hungry mage, but he still needs to manage his resources until he gets his mana-stacking items.

XxxLumberJackxxXFeb 8, 20171 votes

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... why are you even trying to auto attack with Karthus?

Use his Q

Q is for harassing enemy champion aa is for farming

5000000000000000Feb 8, 20172 votes

What's the difference?

Elite4RunnerFeb 9, 20172 votes

https://i.imgflip.com/1j9cey.jpg

ValeckseraiFeb 8, 20173 votes

As a Karthus main, he doesn't really need it. His auto is REALLY bad, but it just takes a long time to get used to to use it to cs. His q is a strong enough farming tool as it is. If you spam it while aiming poorly in early game and run out of mana you shouldn't have a super easy time getting it back with good aa when you just played like a boosted animal. It's one of the things that balances his laning out slightly. He can still spam q, but if he's an idiot about how much he does it he needs to really work to get mana back.

A FLUFFY BUNNY 1Feb 8, 20172 votes

Karthus needs some love for sure. Use to look. To play him. Now I only pick him if I feel like destroying champs across the map. But can't even do that anymore as everyone has a shield now days.

SohleksFeb 9, 20172 votes

I like his bad bad auto attack.

Not everything should be the same

Robert SmithFeb 8, 20171 votes

It is made to be awkward and bad so you use Q instead. And if you think it is bad now, this is an updated version of what it is. Before the animation was worse causing the aa to be slower.