Can we please buff towers?

Matthew100x·Jan 15, 2017·144 votes·2,591 views

Never before have I been so thoroughly tilted by one aspect of the game, first tower blood. Last game I was playing top poppy against a Trynd, this is a bronze game btw. I kill him and get first blood at 2:17 and then kill him again 4 mins into the game. Everything is going fine, I'm farming, just trying to sieze my advantage over my lane opponent. Then Trynd comes back to lane and I do a few bad trades with him, that's alright because I didn't die. Everything is fine, I back to grab some items, ninja tabi and bami's cinder and head back to lane. All of a sudden Yi is in my lane and they're both pushing down my tower. I kid you not in one minion wave they both cleared my frigging tower, it was at 1/5th of its hp by the time i got back to lane and they just sat there under tower killing it when I got back. This was at seven minutes into the game. I remember a time where seven minutes was where you started doing full damage to turrets and they were still REALLY bulky. How can a trynd and yi with no attack damage items be allowed to clear a tower in one minion wave while I back? What am I suppose to do? Yes I didn't have Tp because I didn't switch the summoner spells intime but that doesn't make it right for them to take my tower while I'm backed. The game was lost due to other reasons (cough Teammates tilting themselves and each other cough) but it was still incredibly tilting to me that he was able to do that.

TLDR; Enemy top laner and jg took top tower at seven minutes in while I was backed when they had no items.

Edit: this is the game inquestion http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2400242119/58121006?tab=overview

22 Comments

SiytherJan 15, 201721 votes

towers are def too weak right now. Take it from the bot lane lol.5 games yesterday and 4 of them were decided by tower first blood. Champs that have no business diving are ignoring towers because they do zero damage. Towers need to be strong as fuck early game and fall off as time goes on. riot needs to tweak the pionts in which they do so im fine with towers being way weaker in the mid to late game but not early when ur level 3 and every champ in the game can tower dive and kill u get tower first blood and game is already snowballed.

IceKingChernobogJan 15, 20174 votes

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towers are def too weak right now. Take it from the bot lane lol.5 games yesterday and 4 of them were decided by tower first blood. Champs that have no business diving are ignoring towers because they do zero damage. Towers need to be strong as fuck early game and fall off as time goes on. riot needs to tweak the pionts in which they do so im fine with towers being way weaker in the mid to late game but not early when ur level 3 and every champ in the game can tower dive and kill u get tower first blood and game is already snowballed.

Riot also needs to get rid of tower first blood as well. The game is already snowbally as hell.

SiytherJan 16, 20172 votes

agreed

FireDrizzleJan 15, 20179 votes

If you die or back once your tower can be oneshot basically now, yeah. You can't play safe without a tower, especially without crab or a good ward from your jungler so It feels really bad. If you do have a ward it can just be removed by that sweeping plant.

Darkest LaughJan 16, 20176 votes

Given that tower fb is a bonus 400 gold, they really need to be stronger early. Maybe keep them the same strength late game, but they really are waaaay too easy to take.

SkorchJan 15, 20173 votes

I dont think "Tower first blood" Is a problem. While getting towers is a big reward in itself, towers all giving an even amount of gold allows you to easily trade with that.

TFB added people thinking instead of "We can't let them get tower" into "WE CANNOT let them get first tower" It fixed the issue of tower trading in the LCS which makes sense.

The issue with it comes with the fact 3 or 4 people can kill a turret with 1 or 2 minion waves in about 15-20 seconds, meaning if you die, its gone immediatly. And with how easy it is to dive right now pre-15min (and it only gets easier) You can die REALLY easy.

xeviJan 15, 20173 votes

I understand why TFB exists but the bonus needs to be tuned down while Tower defenses need to increase.

SkorchJan 15, 20176 votes

I personally dont think BOTH are required but definitely at least one of those

HollowMimicJan 16, 20171 votes

Same. And as a preference I pick tower defenses.

SkorchJan 16, 20173 votes

tower defenses AND offenses

Corrupt BlissJan 16, 20171 votes

Seconded.

FantasySniperJan 16, 20173 votes

Tower First Blood correlates with winning 70%+ of games. Even at Diamond level, it barely budges.

PB4UAMEJan 16, 20171 votes

Please repeat after me, correlation does not equal causation.

There are too many lurking variables there.

First team to kill the nexus correlates with winning 100% of the time; its almost as if both teams have to destroy their enemy's structures, and of course in such a condition, the team that is winning will probably have a leg up in that regard.

FantasySniperJan 16, 20171 votes

That's why I said it.

Matthew100xJan 16, 20171 votes

The reason we lost that game extends well beyond first tower blood, in fact it really isn't even a reason we lost. Our bot lane and mid lane gave up a few kills and then started flamming each other. The game was lost then. The only reason why I brought the first tower blood up is because I set my enemy laner far behind and its incredibly tilting for me to lose my tower just to back. It's really stupid if you ask me.

Hèntaî Jan 16, 20172 votes

Towers should apply grevious wounds so people cant out heal tower damage and live

AninLegions777Jan 16, 20171 votes

This! and an enrage function that "After 4 shots to enemy champions, Towers gain 100% Attack Speed and 50% of it's damage is converted to true damage based on enemy champion's hp. 300second cooldown"

Xela SyabJan 16, 20172 votes

Had a game where no turrets were taken till 17 mins.

Xator12Jan 15, 20171 votes

Instead of buffing towers I think instead of three shots needed for a melee minion to die it should be two and for a cannon it should be reduced by a two shots and for casters it should be two shots as well. Keep the same takiness for the minions just increase damage they take from turrets.

ReZisT LustJan 15, 20171 votes

But mages wont wear the same armor as warriors cause it impedes their casting chance. Trust me im a mythic level leopard named Leopurrd "Butters"Scotch*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

ReZisT LustJan 15, 20171 votes

One good back from the enemy and Teemo can 3/4th your tower solo thanks to his attacks speed passive lol