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Please implement harsher feeding/bad plays punishments.

Matthew100x·4/19/2015, 6:02:07 PM·4 votes·426 views

Hey guys i just wanted to post this because i am really getting aggravated by the large amount of losses i get with bad teams. I finally just got into bronze 4 after 3 promos in bronze 5 and i'm almost about to go back to bronze 5 due to the constant bad teams. I haven't even risen above 20 lp yet and its becoming so bad that i'm getting really low lp per win, my last win i got 11. It's not fair to me because i usually do well in my matches with a large amount of the kills and CS along with a good amount of assists. I'm currently once again sitting at 0 lp and i know if i lose one or two more matches i'm going back to bronze 5 and i'll have to do the promos all over again.

When i have teams who don't feed in lane i win, when i have teams who just can't stop feeding then i lose. I've gotten so frustrated that I've been reporting my team for feeding when they have 5 more deaths then kills. I don't understand how hard it is to not feed, the only times i do so is when i get counter picked, focused on, or attacked by fed enemy champs. Can we please do something to fix this?

8 Comments

Adanim4/19/2015, 6:24:02 PM1 votes

Having a bad game is not a punishable offense, because even the pros have games where they just plan mess up all the time. We are all human, so it's going to happen sometime in our gaming careers. You also mentioned that you are in Bronze 4, and that people "feed"all the time in the games that you lose, and people don't "feed" in the games that you win. I want to explain some of what I believe to be true when playing this game and the criteria for what "feeding" is.

First off, what I believe to be "feeding" is the actual, conscious decision to give the enemy more kills. This can be interpreted in different ways, but the way I see it is if someone is running at the other team, on their own, 1v2-5, and DOESN'T even cast an ability in an attempt to make something constructive happen for the team's success, that person is feeding. This is not feeding: a person dies in lane to their opponent in a 1v1 fight. They go back to lane and attempt the same thing, because the first fight was close or they think that they can beat them now after knowing how they lost in the first place. They die again. They try again after getting a few items, and fail. The person is now 0/3. NOT FEEDING. They are actually trying to see if they can beat their opponent. Feeding is only feeding when it's intentional, never at any other time. At other times, it's just poor decision making, which again, we all do from time to time.

Now, you are in Bronze 4, which means that in terms of skill level and experience, you and all the other players in your division and tier are near the lowest of the player base. That isn't a bad thing, because we were all there at one point. Some of us (including myself) were never in Bronze at all during our ranked careers. That doesn't mean we never played at the Bronze level, it means we didn't play ranked when we were AT that level. So the people you are playing against and with are people who don't play to a very high standard, hence why you guys are in bronze. You CANNOT under ANY circumstances, expect to see Bjergsen level play at your level. You can't, it doesn't exist. If it did, then you wouldn't be in Bronze.

Players are going to mess up, especially at the lower levels. They are ranked at the lower levels because of this, they mess up more often than Silver players, who mess up more than Gold, and upwards through the tiers. Your "bad teams" aren't bad on purpose. They are just not at a very high skill level.

Also, to finish up, the only variable that stays the same in all of your games is YOU. Instead of focusing on "omg my team was so bad, I deserve better teams", focus more on "Hey, we lost that game. What could I have done better to possibly have changed that loss to a win?" You only have control over yourself, so when you lose (and sometimes when you win, because we all win with a bad game) ask yourself what you can do to improve, what you can do to make yourself better so you can climb higher.

Don't blame your teammates. You are the only thing that's the same in all of your games, so improve yourself and criticize yourself instead of complaining. It goes much further if you focus on improving.

Errastas4/19/2015, 6:57:55 PM1 votes

I've peeked at your match history and this seems to be posted after your last ranked match played. While you were the best on your team in terms of kills, you also had a lot of deaths and very low cs for a 41min game, so there is room for improvement. The LB you were against was 16-3, so if you started her snowball rolling you can't exactly hold your team responsible when she blows them up in one combo. Reporting someone for having a bad game is just wrong, because at the same time based off your stats that game you should have had a report also for feeding.

Adanim4/19/2015, 7:25:14 PM1 votes

Sometimes, and this is true for about 90% of your losses, the other team is just better. That's why they won, isn't it? And you con't let how the other players perform on your teams hold you back. Yes, it can be frustrating. Yes, it may make you want to pull your hair out, but you have no control over how your teammates do. Some games aren't winnable, it's just how it is. The proper mentality when playing ranked should be:

  1. I can't rely on my team to carry, so I have to play my absolute best, 100% of the time.
  2. I have to assume that my opponent is the best player on that champion in the world. I need to play smart, safely, and look for errors and weaknesses.
  3. I need to let go of my results. Yes, this is ranked, but it's ultimately just a game. Getting worked up over this won't help me improve, won't help my tolerance for teammates who aren't up to par with the enemy, and it won't make me feel good about myself in the long run if I keep a negative outlook.
  4. I need to forgive my teammates for their mistakes. I can't badger them about it, because they won't respond well and will start to play worse. I need to stay positive (NOT PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE REVERSE-INSULTING POSITIVE), and I need to keep a level head knowing that some games I will lose and some I will win.
  5. Counter picking, though helpful at times, is a TERRIBLE idea. I suck with Teemo , but they picked Garen , so I'm going to play Teemo anyways, because I have to advantage. Playing champions I am comfortable on that don't counter my lane opponent will be more beneficial and more successful than picking a champion I suck with in order to counter.
  6. I have to recognize what my teammates judge as a good opportunity to engage, and a bad opportunity. Even if engaging at a certain time is the right call, if your teammates don't follow, it's a bad call. Playing to the comfort zones of all of your teammates is how you win.
  7. Their team vs. Your team. Playing as a team player (though it goes against #1 to a certain point) is better than playing as a solo queue player. Meaning, play with your team, not play for yourself even though you are a part of a team. KDA means nothing if you lose, because you still lost.

Getting out of Bronze is hard, I get that. Many of my friends are in Bronze and desperately trying to improve to get out. It's a slow process. You have to go a little bit at a time. Again, when you lose, ask yourself what you could have done better to win that game for your team, because it's a team game. Don't tell yourself that you suck, or that you are bad, or anything negative, because that doesn't help you either. Go into Champion Select and say "Okay guys, lets work hard as a team, play our best, and try our best to win. Stay positive and support each other through all the mistakes, we got this". This sets up the whole team dynamic, the attitude will start off positively. And if you are losing, just say "We are trying our best, it's okay guys. Sometimes winning is harder than usual, and sometimes we won't win". Again, this keeps things in a positive dynamic which in turn improves the attitude, and ultimately the gameplay, of your teammates.

It may take a while, but you will get there. Determination is key. Follow the mentalities, they really help a lot. You got this.

Kariu Rena4/19/2015, 10:24:02 PM1 votes

Dont forget to perma ban bronzelord that tells you to not focus the tank that is infront of you