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PSA: Please please please say what role you want in champion select

NapaIm··76 votes·2,626 views

So, I just got out of a ranked game. Most of our team said their roles, we had an adc pref, a support pref, a jungle pref, and I said mid pref. Come our turn, since we were red side, first pick and I got to choose our champs at the same time. I select Lux, and I voiced my desire for mid lane. After about seconds, I lock her in. Our first pick had selected Yasuo. I assumed he was going top, since its been a thing as of late. After we both lock in, the first thing he says in chat is "Barrier on top? Interesting choice." His duo makes it very obvious he has no intention to go top. So, here I am, Lux, now being forced out of the lane I thought I would have. We lost that game. However, if Yasuo has said from the start he intended on taking mid lane, I would have gladly switched over to adc or support. However, he did not. Instead he and his duo spent the remained of the game, complaining how their team didn't have a support when the enemy did.

Tl;Dr: Please voice your desired role, more communication leads to more victories.

50 Comments

Zarg38 votes

Me: mid. Team: silence for 25 seconds while I check masteries Me: lock in malz Team:wtf fuck you i wanted mid now I feed gg I hate you, what's up with all the retards I get, I should be plat

NapaIm7 votes

lifes rough.

warpenguin5555 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Horny Sergal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZfhYXZOE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-10-08T13:06:00.219+0000)

Me: mid. Team: silence for 25 seconds while I check masteries Me: lock in malz Team:wtf fuck you i wanted mid now I feed gg I hate you, what's up with all the retards I get, I should be plat

or this. Hey player 2, you want top or mid. nothing for 5 seconds, so you lock syndra mid WTF DUDE. I WANTED MID. FUK YOU IM TROLLING!

Deep Terror Nami15 votes

Calling your role gives people more time to contemplate what they'll pick. I don't want to be last pick and say "supp", and nobody says anything, only for person 4 to take support and now I have 15 seconds to counterpick a top lane matchup I don't know anything about.

IcyPepper8 votes

After we both lock in, the first thing he says in chat is "Barrier on top? Interesting choice."

So instead of not saying anything, he waited until you locked in (after saying your role) to be a dick.

With that energy, he could have asked for mid. Tsk tsk. He had the capability of communication but only communicated his will to be an asshole.

magic pole6 votes

im 5th pick: "hey i can't play adc"

-silence-

me during 3rd and 4th players' picks: "ok i could play it but you won't like"

getting smashed in lane because I'm playing my silver level adc against plat adc mains.

team: "noob fucking adc"

Dryditch2 votes

Literally every game for me. Except I'm Bronze.

Dengeden1 votes

This is why I play Corki, early power spikes and you're not gonna get outscaled until everyone hits 6 items. Trinity makes you versatile and beefy and you can build whatever the frik you need as a second item.

Bârd1 votes

Yeah, I love triforce. Bard its the best.

SH Azykan1 votes

except last whisper...never build that 2nd (I see this way too much) If they are itemizing armor early...great your magic damage is still going to be enough to hurt them like hell.

Dengeden1 votes

There are people who build that 2nd? o.0 I already feel guilty every time I build that as a 3rd item (which I usually do because I lack gold).

Izbiz5 votes

Don't take this the wrong way because you're completely right.

But what was the benefit in locking Lux? Why not just wait to lock until he showed Yas and then you can ask. If he doesn't respond, Mid would be the first assumption.

Although this was avoidable by him, this was also avoidable by you. You have to go into ranked assuming the worst communication possible.

Iceoh4 votes

This is what I do if I'm not totally sure what everyone else wants to pick. I'll select whoever I want to play (and let them know which role i'm going, if I initially said i preferred several) and then wait until they lock in. It's the best way to deal with people that don't call out preferences

edit: why can i upvote myself ._.

Axis the Dragon2 votes

rekt by your own upvote

Rosewell81 votes

You auto up vote your own comments.

Jari2 votes

Yas top has been more popular I've noticed recently. He can fit both, so him staying quiet isn't his fault. He stated he was going mid, picked Lux, and locked in. He even said he assumed that he picked Yas to go top since it's been more popular recently. Lack of communication leads to this.

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

It's one thing to insta lock just because you called it, but if someone says "hey I want this role if it's open plz" and no one says anything, then it comes their turn and they hover over it for a seconds before locking in if the other person picking doesn't bring up something that might want the same role, how is it the person communicating's fault? Honestly, if you can't be bothered to say "hey man that's my main role and I'd really like to take it" or at least bring up a champ to hover on while you decide what you'll play in that role, then why would you expect to play it?

Izbiz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=T RexHasTinyArms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZfhYXZOE,comment-id=00050002,timestamp=2015-10-09T00:29:11.846+0000)

It's one thing to insta lock just because you called it, but if someone says "hey I want this role if it's open plz" and no one says anything, then it comes their turn and they hover over it for a seconds before locking in if the other person picking doesn't bring up something that might want the same role, how is it the person communicating's fault? Honestly, if you can't be bothered to say "hey man that's my main role and I'd really like to take it" or at least bring up a champ to hover on while you decide what you'll play in that role, then why would you expect to play it?

Please re-read my post.

I never said it was his fault for communicating. i'm saying he could have avoided it.

T RexHasTinyArms2 votes

Fair enough. I was just reacting to it from a more emotional/gut reaction stand point of "you shouldn't have to." My bad on not reading carefully.

Android Cowboy3 votes

I've long since given up any hope or hold any sort of expectations for others' duos, now I just dodge those matches altogether. Gnar

SlampieceHawke3 votes

Communication is key indeed. I'll mostly point out that I don't know where I'm going yet for my team. I'm one of them guys who can play any role decently and maybe some better than others... like jangle or support.

A lot of people disregard pick strategy and it makes me sad... :(

I've come to find that my Shyvana jangle is a safe pick as I can either opt for item 3710 or item 3709 depending on my team comps needs. Most of the time I see that my team needs more tank and it makes me very happy to go cinderhulk for them :D

SH Azykan1 votes

item 3717 item 3074 item 3742 item 3065 item 3083 item 3047 still my fave shyvana build =\

Fateborn1 votes

I would think Titanic is better on that build. lol

SH Azykan1 votes

the lifesteal on Ravenous makes it better than Titanic imo. That and Ravenous being able to cancel your E animation whereas Titanic cannot. The damage tbh is about the same. So you are trading max hp and a true auto reset for lifesteal and an animation reset. (Same reason some Renektons still build Ravenous)

ElegantDoge2 votes

Really ?I just think people should be able to fill.Call your role if you want but be ready to adapt if you're not first.

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

Many people lock in flex picks. I've lost soo many games because someone locked in a flex pick and then alt tabbed out without calling a lane and then we ended up with two top/mids/support/jgs etc. Also some people will lock in a jungler but not immediately take smite, or a lock in a top laner and keep smite, etc. But the main issue is when two people are picking at the same time. If one (or both) are not talking or at least hovering a champ that is clearly in a role that they intend to play, you can often end up with two of the same role, and a very unhappy team.

Pijips1 votes

Also when you are, say, 4th and 5th pick, and you call your role (as 4th pick). When it is then your turn to pick 5th pick instalocks. Am I misinterpreting pick order? Thought it was the order people are in and not just the sequence of picks

Shifune2 votes

If you are second in the current pick rotation, you shouldn't lock in before the person above you anyway. S/he has pick order over you, so you can hover something, but don't lock it in until they pick.

NapaIm3 votes

{quoted}

If you are second in the current pick rotation, you shouldn't lock in before the person above you anyway. S/he has pick order over you, so you can hover something, but don't lock it in until they pick.

I didn't actually lock in Lux, nor did he lock in Yasuo. TIme ran out, and he still said nothing. No indicator. Again, if he wanted mid lane I would have gladly changed roles. He just didn't say anything until 4th pick went.

Shifune1 votes

{quoted}

I didn't actually lock in Lux, nor did he lock in Yasuo. TIme ran out, and he still said nothing. No indicator. Again, if he wanted mid lane I would have gladly changed roles. He just didn't say anything until 4th pick went.

So you lied in your original post? You specifically said that "After about seconds, I lock her in." Get your story straight?

NapaIm1 votes

Yes. Yes I did. I was pretty frustrated at that time and just kinda wrote down in a venting way.

zangager2 votes

People can chat using only their thoughts about half the time. Oddly, this half is when their thoughts are negative and not when they want a specific role or want to help a team mate improve.

Maximum Morde1 votes

I just play one champion for all roles so it doesn't really matter, cause my pick isn't changing. Would rather the other folks just pick where they going so they are more comfortable.

fukimissHarambe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZfhYXZOE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-10-08T13:17:45.976+0000)

I just play one champion for all roles so it doesn't really matter, cause my pick isn't changing. Would rather the other folks just pick where they going so they are more comfortable.

Not to be rude but I doubt teams will let you play mordkaiser support or jungle if you ever start playing ranked :P

Maximum Morde1 votes

{quoted}

Not to be rude but I doubt teams will let you play mordkaiser support or jungle if you ever start playing ranked :P

This is just my forum posting alt. Teams have no choice other than dodging when it comes to my pick if they don't want me to play it. I HAVE done and WON as support and jungle Mordekaiser in ranked matches, granted not as frequently as when played in a stronger position. The point is moot now because he's permabanned so I can't play him anyway.

SlytherinUmbreon1 votes

I'd kind of like to say, given the context, I don't think Jungle Morde was that bad before the rework. (Since it sounds like you were playing him before he was permabanned. Or on the PBE... -3-)

kaltenashes1 votes

S2 Teambuilder S2...i've had enough blind pick and draft, they're too frustrating

Actually xPeke1 votes

says pref mid in chat Picks xerath and says mid again (was first pick) locks in and brbs for a few seconds when i come back theres suddenly a zed locked in with ignited "i thought u went support u still had exhaust"

I said mid 2 times.. like wtf, i still had exhaust from last game support on accident but read the goddamn chat

Hiemdol1 votes

Or if you are later in the pick order say the role you do not want. If you are last pick and are a mediocre jungler but can play anything else don't be afraid to say so. You may still have to play the role you don't want but there is almost no chance to avoid it once everyone else is locked in.

High51 votes

Draft is pick order. I usually give the person ahead of me 20 secs to hover something before I pick. If they don't hover anything and don't say anything and then lock in your lane, it's their fault or they're trolling.

This is a small subset of cases imo though. Like everything LoL, if people aren't paying attention or spamming selection chat, mute eveyone, take the 20 and move on.

I genrally mute everyone anyway. I've met very few people in soloq that were worth talking to.

ForeverLaxx1 votes

No. The only time this makes any sense is if someone is picking a champion for a lane they don't normally find themselves in (though Mid Yasuo isn't uncommon, and you should have asked his intentions anyway instead of assuming).

Champ Select is already inundated with spamming for roles and threats of feeding. All you're doing is encouraging that behavior.

DeynaTaggerung1 votes

Haha yeah I had a game where I typed out 3-4 lines asking and encouraging people to pick roles so that we could avoid champ select confusion. Meanwhile my duo partner is laughing in private chat about how I've been rejected by the team...Then first and second pick both lock in jungle at the same time. Second pick says "Oh I didn't realize you were going jungle with that".
me: ">.> I seem to recall someone saying something about calling roles"

They then proceeded to be nice people who worked it out, but that's a perfect example of why we call roles

Malicious Fury1 votes

I've found out the people call lanes more in Co-Op versus AI games, where it's not necessary. Sad but true.

Ada Wong1 votes

Calling role is more important but letting your team know what champion is being played is also just as important because Riot Choose to enforce Pick Order over Call Order, however by enforcing this you are saying I can play any champion any damn place I want to for any reason I want to, however this can bring a very big disadvantage to your team and make you lose the match fast.

Take for example Yasuo Katarina Akali It does not help your team if someone locks one of these champions on a team, and no one builds around them, or takes any proper CC which is why letting everyone know what you are playing is just as important as calling a role because otherwise it leads to toxicity, loss of game, and players who get angry when someone breaks the meta because you end up with a team like this, Thresh Nidalee Ezreal Warwick Teemo which serves no purpose when an enemy team ends up with all all in team comp which is better than yours and they win because they took crowd control for example, the game the OP talks about in this example, a Yasuo being played Top Lane, along with a Leona support and Orianna Mid would have been great, but the chances of getting a team who doesn't just auto lock stuff and creates problems is like very small.

LCS and very high elo players the game is more based around actual skill and team plays it seems, but Solo Queue and Bronze - Gold players are just usually complete garbage when it comes to some, the exception being some really skilled players I find which is very rare in Bronze.

NapaIm1 votes

Just played yet another ranked game. This time, everyone voiced their desires for champion spots. Even though I didn't get any of my top 3 roles, Sivir and Anivia (First and second pick) said what they wanted. Third pick gave top to me, because I couldn't jungle, and our last pick claimed he only knew support. We were able to build a lethal team comp, and we had pretty good communication throughout the game. We won that game. This is how it should be done ^^

Alleo1 votes

Last night I had first pick and said I'll mid if no one else wants to. Chat was silent so I went lux mid. 4th pick on our team mocks in riven after we already had a top and says "mid"... Against a Lulu.... Needless to say that riven got destroyed while I was stuck supporting.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Im confused where was your support?

Dealth1 votes

Call your role but NOT what champion you are going to play. Because from my experience, if you say what champion you will play the team captain will always make sure to ban that champion.

NapaIm1 votes

Relevant: Don't lock in a champ in champ select then say its your first time. Our TF did that and was flamed for a bit, before they finally shut up. I don't think it was his first time because he did really well against Zed, but its best not to say its first time.

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