Graves can be as tanky as bruiser who has to build tank items.

Aroha Mai·May 1, 2016·13 votes·1,698 views

And he get's it from just auto attacking people to death.

18 Comments

HongChongDongMay 1, 20162 votes

I mean he's supposed to be a bruiser marksman.

Critmaster GarenMay 1, 20167 votes

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I mean he's supposed to be a bruiser marksman.

the idea is retarded in the first place. i mean how can that be balanced?

they need to remove either his dash, or his defense steroid. he cant be a mobile, ranged bruiser.

CaítlynMay 1, 20162 votes

Auto attacking? More like he presses Q and R and you die.

CasterGilgameshMay 1, 20162 votes

i thought we were done with this graves hate on the boards i dont even play him but seriously he isnt that tanky i mean like any other adc he melts like paper in team fights and since he needs to get close to even deal auto attack damage he is always in the fight not to mention an amo system with only two bullets.though i will admit on first playing him after up date he was pretty strong and maybe he does need nerfs but people please all i ask is we stop exaggerating. Now for a nerf they need to further nerf his base damages and increase the scaling for building damage thus he now has to sacrifice tankyness for damage and now needs to build ad to break even with his current tank self

SirSmokeysAlotMay 1, 20162 votes

People just will not stop crying about Graves. After the nerd to his q and r (the q delay was a great nerf imo) as well as the recent nerf to his autos, I believe graves is in a good spot now. The QQers just want him nerfed in to oblivion.

CasterGilgameshMay 1, 20161 votes

yah kinda like how everyone want my Soraka deleted even though next patch with grievous wounds workings for all healing again she is now hard countered by 800 gold

SirSmokeysAlotMay 1, 20161 votes

Meh, that was not the way to fix soraka. I don't know how you'd go about doing it but that's not it.

Aroha MaiMay 1, 20162 votes

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People just will not stop crying about Graves. After the nerd to his q and r (the q delay was a great nerf imo) as well as the recent nerf to his autos, I believe graves is in a good spot now. The QQers just want him nerfed in to oblivion.

Because maybe people don't like the fact that a ranged bruiser can get more resistances from just auto attacking people to death when most bruisers/fighter have to actually and this is the best part...BUILD RESISTANCES to mitigate dmg it gets kinda sickening to watch.

SirSmokeysAlotMay 1, 20161 votes

Hahaha, do you even realize how that ability works? You cannot just stack it on minions. It takes a really long time for graves to get 4 stacks. Go play a game as graves and tell me how many times you get true grit to 4 stacks.

BlåbæretMay 1, 20161 votes

He's too tanky tbh.

TheOvermindMay 1, 20161 votes

How to solve the graves problem : revert his rework make him into an ACTIAL AD CARRY again and see how he works with the new adc items since we never got the chance to see. Also remove damage reductions from phantom dancer and deaths dance. Damage reduction should not be purchasable

Big LincolnMay 1, 20161 votes

tank items are damage reduction

TheOvermindMay 1, 20161 votes

U miss my point tank items reduce damage in the long term due to the resistances they offer . Phantom dancer gives 15 % dmg reduction straight up. Then again resistances work with damage types and penetrations and have diminishing returns at higher amounts .