kai'sa getting a buff next patch right?

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i went through quite a few posts on the reddit ama and been on countless form posts of her day one release and everyone seems to think she is really underwhelming and under-tuned and these are some of the criticisms I've noticed in a few posts and comments

These are things people wish were better at least from my knowledge

Q is nice but it doesn't prioritize marked champions Q fires not enough missiles early and late game they don't have enough impact because of how sprat-tick they are

W range is too large W fires too slow W travels slow W range is larger then ult range

E makes you unable to attack when charging E takes to long Rushing E to get the upgrade means you lose damage item priority Evolved E stealth time ends too fast

R range not large enough to combo max range W R cant be used on jungle camps or epic monsters R shield is too small

Auto range is smaller then most adc's making it very hard to win trades Emotes are very loud and spamable Potential to be a mage is lacklustre

In my own personal view i think she is not a very good champion, her design is kinda cheap, she's not all that original, her kit doesn't feel fun to play with in bot lane and in the jungle she gets outclassed...

Her abilities defiantly need some rethinking but over all its a good place to start, its kinda nice that for once there isn't a busted, 70% on release win rate champion coming into the game and riot can do some quick little tuneups to make her strong.

12 Comments

Done253 votes

Her kit needs better AP scaling in general. (Especially on her passive proc.) Her Q should be able to crit. (per rocket) W is fine, could stand to be a little bit faster yea. E is a bit clunky, but has to be that way to keep it balanced. (Otherwise she could have a 100% uptime on her attack speed boost.) R is fine.

I Like Teemo2 votes

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Her kit needs better AP scaling in general. (Especially on her passive proc.) Her Q should be able to crit. (per rocket) W is fine, could stand to be a little bit faster yea. E is a bit clunky, but has to be that way to keep it balanced. (Otherwise she could have a 100% uptime on her attack speed boost.) R is fine.

if q did crit it would have to have reduced damage on the crit and lower the total reduction per rocket just a little

E does need a little fixing and fiddling but yea its just a less good xayah w right now

im sure riot will tune her up and make her less slow and clunky

Farian1 votes

Personally I'm not having much trouble with her, I've won 3 of my 4 games with her. Yes her damage does feel lacklustre and I agree, her ult should be able to reach a target marked at max w range

5050BS1 votes

Her damage scales slower then other ADC and her power spikes are MUCH later in game then other ADC and even tho the spike is just a hop, nothing like other ADC spikes.

Rexxiee1 votes

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Her damage scales slower then other ADC and her power spikes are MUCH later in game then other ADC and even tho the spike is just a hop, nothing like other ADC spikes.

And to make up for that, she gets the worst laning phase out of every adc, to the point where vayne can actually poke and bully kai sa out of lane, sadly this is not a hyperbole.

I think at this point its better to just remove her, refund everyone and go back to the drawing board and make an actual FUNCTIONAL ADC.

5050BS3 votes

No she is defiantly fixable and her play is fun when she is not behind.

Riot just has to do what they need to do to fix her.

Daemonette1 votes

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No she is defiantly fixable and her play is fun when she is not behind.

Riot just has to do what they need to do to fix her.

I do agree. She fun to play. It just she start so bad in the start of the game. Her power spike is way to late in the game. When she finally spikes it feels so good getting that 5th attack off to do super damage. >.> I understand riot wanted to get away 3 AA procs but 5 is so retarded. Feel one of biggest thing with her is her AA is to short and attack speed is to slow at start.

Riot did a massive knee jerk on her nerfs post launch because people where QQing on the PBE.

I Like Teemo1 votes

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And to make up for that, she gets the worst laning phase out of every adc, to the point where vayne can actually poke and bully kai sa out of lane, sadly this is not a hyperbole.

I think at this point its better to just remove her, refund everyone and go back to the drawing board and make an actual FUNCTIONAL ADC.

her lane phase isnt "the worst" her q is super good at farming in the early levels, but the range of it is just so small that you risk taking 2-4 autos from enemy adc's for usually less then 4 minions

but with dorans shield being her recommended item it helps a little for those trades

Kanzler1 votes

Her ult just feels buggy to use. There is a marked target within my ult range, I start spamming R to the location I want and nothing happens.

SwiftKitten881 votes

yeah she is getting a MASSIVE buff.. its called "people learning how to play her properly" [zombie-brand-facepalm]

GripaAviara1 votes

Hope not, don't want to see her permabanned, i want to play her

Daemonette1 votes

She does need some work. Maybe changing her 5 shot proc into a 4 shot one. I do agree with everything you posted. I want her to be fixed. Mini rework might be needed.

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