Illaoi needs a hot fix...ASAP...

JustSir·Nov 26, 2015·2 votes·786 views

Her damage is out of control. When she isnt banned, she is first picked and here is why. I just played a game against her. level 14 she had nothing but armor and health items and got a SOLO pentakill...we jumped her while her team was doing baron to try and shut her down...she ulted and got a penta before we could dash and flash away...

Am i the only one experiencing the one-sidedness of her? Am i missing a key to countering her? because i cant seem to do anything against her

Edit: After considering options here are a few ideas for her. 1) base ad for her, or at the very least her tentacles, needs to be lowered and 2) like darius, needs to have a heal limit on them. Other than that i dont have a problem with the champ. I like juggernauts and will probably pick her up once i get paid next

20 Comments

DreadlocksNov 26, 20152 votes

Play draft and ban her, cuz honestly anything is possible at silver 5...

JustSirNov 26, 20151 votes

try to, people dont listen in silver 5. They just ban what they see banned at the professional level

DreadlocksNov 26, 20151 votes

Professionals havn't even played on season 6 turf yet so its more just preference at this point.

RalanrNov 26, 20152 votes

After fighting against her, I can see how terrifying she is. Her Q is telegraphed, but her W is painful. Teamfights are a clusterfuck. She'll probably get a nerf to her base AD.

JustSirNov 26, 20151 votes

that's honestly all she needs, but until then it's really not fun to lane against her :/...i also dont think her passive "leave a tentacle her and there and everywhere" should be affected by cdr...because i dont believe any other passives are affected by it...are they?

ShyvauniNov 26, 20152 votes

I found her annoying but not opressive. You just need to adjust how you play against her and you will be fine.

Also i am uncertain if her passive is affected by cdr or if any other is or not.

JustSirNov 26, 20151 votes

True i haven't had time to play against her and get a feel for how to out play her...but i was jinx with a soraka, both with full health, she flashed, ulted, and q'd and we were both dead...again...only had a randuins omen and mystic treads

BluePolarizerNov 26, 20152 votes

It is impossible to deal with her because she is like Darius, but with an area of influence that takes up the whole lane and significantly better mobility. Who would've thought that the only thing limiting Darius is his extremely small area of influence and that if you expand it, he becomes insanely OP? Who would've thought that giving Darius mobility will make him insanely OP?

Well, now you have Illaoi, who is essentially Darius with 1000 range area of influence and mobility.

JustSirNov 26, 20151 votes

also her heal isnt limited to champs and number of champs like Darius is...If a tentacle hits, it heals

ShyvauniNov 26, 20152 votes

Wrong only hits on champions heal her. Tooltips man.

JustSirNov 26, 20151 votes

sorry just read that. But its still an uncapped heal and Darius's is very much capped. If 1 tentacle his 3 champs and and heals for 100, that's 300 health gained...from 1 q...if she ulted in that same scenario, if i am reading the q correctly, that's 4 instances of healing for 300. That seems alittle bit insane, but ill have to pay more attention next time i play

ShyvauniNov 26, 20152 votes

Darius' Heal

Darius heals for 12% missing health for each enemy champion hit by Decimate's blade, up to a maximum of 36% missing health.

Illaoi's PASSIVE: Illaoi's Prophet of an Elder God.png Tentacles deal bonus damage and restore 5% of her missing health if they strike at least one champion

From reading that she can hit 5 champs and still only heal 5% poer tentacle hit

JustSirNov 26, 20151 votes

It's pretty ambiguous, because i read that as, if 1 tentacle hits 5 champs in a team fight, that's 25% health from 1 tentacle, but if she has 3 tentacles hitting 5 champs in that same teamfight, that's 75% healing. I guess they need to specify if 1 tentacle hitting 5 champs only procs the singular 5% heal, or if its 5% heal per champion hit but the 1 tentacle

ShyvauniNov 26, 20151 votes

Agreed it is a little bit to vague in this case. And I have not played her enough to determine which is the case

SpecterVonBarenNov 26, 20152 votes

She's certainly going to be a balance nightmare. I don't think she's OP but all she really has to offer is damage which means that if her damage is too over the top then they'll have to nerf it which means nerfing the thing she's supposed to be good at.

JustSirNov 26, 20151 votes

her kit isnt op at all, I find it quite cool actually. The problem im see is, with only armor and health items, she is able to kill a champ with 2 abilities. I dont think HER base ad needs to be nerfed, just the AD of her tentacles. If you think about it, if her tentacles have her ad, that's like hitting a champ with 3 auto attacks at once if you have 2 tentacles out and you use q

AdaloreNov 26, 20152 votes

Eh, I don't find her insane but I haven't done much solo play with her. I have done plenty of games fighting her during teamfights and if your team is dog pile without the ability to explode her you will be suffering for it for sir.

Disengage, "Wide influence" teams that she cannot easily catch or sit there and slug with just make her miserable. Now any juggernaut getting snowball ahead out of top lane if they ever reach you will straight up gut you, so that's a team comp level thing.

Also keep in mind if you are worried about getting face exploded, she does physical damage if you can manage to slot in minor armor item she will suddenly do far less damage with her inability to purchase LW or even apply black cleaver stacks easily.

JustSirNov 26, 20151 votes

i thought cleaver applied stacks with the tentacle hits?

AdaloreNov 26, 20151 votes

That's the thing about it, in order to apply BLACK CLEAVER stacks she is either in the middle of a rofl fight or is very slowly trying to run you down and is unable to apply those stacks.

We don't have a Darius or Garen situation that require one attack or a spin to win to fully stack the thing.

at best in a un-setup(no tentacles spawned nearby) fight assuming the target isn't dumb and trying to have a slug fest with a juggernaut...

Best case, ignoring e due to utility'ish of it.

Auto, (Unlikely, character is very slow.)
W, (small gap closer)
Auto again, (Unlikely, so many times I have W'd a player and couldn't follow up until I had mid game build.)
Q their escape path. And then feel stupid that you can't keep up. In this case she only has 2 "For sure" stacks of cleaver and even then q can be side stepped if you are the only threat.

She...Can't stick to use the cleave stacks at all. At least that is my experience in playing and fighting her so far. Also guys, you can all build not-homeguards now, furor boots make so many juggernauts sad when trying to chase ADcs.

Now yes, the perfect teamfight is straight up overkill, but that is an edge case that will only happen if you let it when she has no personal set up for it at all.

EcchiOtakuTMNov 26, 20151 votes

She's pretty lackluster, just move and avoid her damage, Only thing is her ulti and even then you should respect it and fight in a different area instead of just giving her power by fighting her on her ulti ground.

She has no CC, she can't stick onto a good target. She's good at disruptive teamfights but otherwise she's not good at all.