Lucian's ult + Muramana

JustSir·Jan 8, 2016·4 votes·4,479 views

His ult shoots individual, single target bullets...shouldn't Muramana apply the damage buff to them? cant seem to find a strait answer.

20 Comments

The DeckownerJan 8, 20162 votes

muramana's active only works on auto attacks, lucian's ult isnt auto attack

Sneakyy XDJan 8, 20161 votes

Lucian's ult is an AoE ability.

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muramana's active only works on auto attacks, lucian's ult isnt auto attack

It works for single-target abilities, too.

Bootleg GayJan 8, 20161 votes

It does not apply the bonus damage nor does it consume extra mana as the ability as a whole counts as a multi hit ability.

Trust me, I've been wanting this too.

NahuiJan 8, 20161 votes

This would be flat out OP and they'd remove it if it did initially count.

MunchCrunchLunchJan 8, 20162 votes

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This would be flat out OP and they'd remove it if it did initially count.

but mf ult is not op? it does way more damage than lucians ult and lucian ult doesn't hit multi targets at a time

BlunterMonkJan 8, 20163 votes

But Lucian can move while shooting, MF is completely stationary.

MunchCrunchLunchJan 8, 20162 votes

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But Lucian can move while shooting, MF is completely stationary.

move sideways. can't change the trajectory. easily avoided. its easier avoided than mf ult.

Big LincolnJan 8, 20163 votes

what if lucian moves sideways too

MunchCrunchLunchJan 8, 20161 votes

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what if lucian moves sideways too

well lucian ult has 3 second duration. and its not like he predicts where am going so if am going to avoid some of it i prob wont die cuz his ult doesn't do much damage at all unless hes fed or your really squishy. a tank can easily sit on his ult and not care while mf can just shot through it

AbusingMyRightsJan 8, 20161 votes

until she gets hit with a trundle pillar and her ult ends doing no damage at all

NahuiJan 8, 20161 votes

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but mf ult is not op? it does way more damage than lucians ult and lucian ult doesn't hit multi targets at a time

I'm gonna put down a bit of logic here that may shock you. Hold on here, this is major, high ELO stuff that you may not quite grasp...

Move to the side.

HOLY SHIT.

BoulderoxJan 8, 20161 votes

YES OP! I've calculated this previously, and having the (hopefully) correct math item 3042 gives you: +25 attack damage +1000 mana +25% base mana regeneration Passive UNIQUE – AWE: Gain attack damage equal to 2% maximum mana. Active UNIQUE: Toggle: Single target abilities and basic attacks (on-hit) consume 3% of current mana to deal 6% of current mana as physical damage.

SO following this http://i.imgur.com/9NnSxsV.png

Having the first column be the mana WITH ONLY muramana and base stats ONLY (lvl18 = 995 + 1000 (Muramana)) = 1995 starting mana, with consecutive column is the mana pool after the 3% mana loss per hit, and the followed by mana used per shot IF APPLIED, then left over mana, where the next part of muramana kicks which is the 6% of the current mana procs (left over from initial muramana hit (Assumably how that works)) Followed by the damage per shot (50+ 20% of total ad = 74.6 per shot)

Theoretically if lucian was able to proc muramana on ult, and he hits EVERY shot(30 total), would deal Total (muramana damage)+ Total #2 (per shot damage added)=4556.282 damage....

So no NEVER should be able to proc it

Edit:(first column appears rounded but is exact number as previous mana left over column )

NahuiJan 8, 20161 votes

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YES OP! I've calculated this previously, and having the (hopefully) correct math gives you: +25 attack damage +1000 mana +25% base mana regeneration Passive UNIQUE – AWE: Gain attack damage equal to 2% maximum mana. Active UNIQUE: Toggle: Single target abilities and basic attacks (on-hit) consume 3% of current mana to deal 6% of current mana as physical damage.

SO following this http://i.imgur.com/9NnSxsV.png

Having the first column be the mana WITH ONLY muramana and base stats ONLY (lvl18 = 995 + 1000 (Muramana)) = 1995 starting mana, with consecutive column is the mana pool after the 3% mana loss per hit, and the followed by mana used per shot IF APPLIED, then left over mana, where the next part of muramana kicks which is the 6% of the current mana procs (left over from initial muramana hit (Assumably how that works)) Followed by the damage per shot (50+ 20% of total ad = 74.6 per shot)

Theoretically if lucian was able to proc muramana on ult, and he hits EVERY shot(30 total), would deal Total (muramana damage)+ Total #2 (per shot damage added)=4556.282 damage....

So no NEVER should be able to proc it

Edit:(first column appears rounded but is exact number as previous mana left over column )

Exactly. OP, now everyone else can see it.

Brimaz The KingJan 9, 20161 votes

But you would have to stack it for so long it should work.

SpoofghoulJan 8, 20161 votes

still works on his passive spell double auto spell double auto

you can get a ton of procs off add in a triforce and essence reaver and youre good to go

SteelflameJan 8, 20161 votes

It lasted like 1 day on the PBE IIRC. It was broken as fuck. It was adding 100 damage or so per ult bullet, meaning it could go upwards of an additional 500-1k per ult.