why is fizz able to 100 - 0 with just sheen ?

Yi Bencheikh·Jan 23, 2016·2 votes·739 views

Hey guys , i am not a fizz hater i actually play him sometimes and really do like him , not because he is strong but because i like every thing about him So i just realized everytime i play him with just sheen as an after - starter item i am able to 100-0 ennemy mid laner or any other dammage carry in 2 sec ... , its all because his ulti in early levels has 0 counterplay unless you get saved by kalista or something like that .. doesnt he seem abit strong ? i also noticed that 6 sec invunerability and mobility and aoe BIG DMG and slow , i know his e is what makes him fizz, but i think its too much overloaded .. this was just my opinion about him , feel free to say what you want about fizz .

11 Comments

Mr Broken WingsJan 23, 20166 votes

His ulti has counterplay, its a skillshot that can be cleansed and dodged pretty easyly, also his early laning is weak, all his damage and engage/disengage is in one spell. He is fine, just anoying to play around. His powerbudget is nearly 100% in his e, his other abilities are pretty meh.

Yi BencheikhJan 23, 20161 votes

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His ulti has counterplay, its a skillshot that can be cleansed and dodged pretty easyly, also his early laning is weak, all his damage and engage/disengage is in one spell. He is fine, just anoying to play around. His powerbudget is nearly 100% in his e, his other abilities are pretty meh.

i know that his ulti can be dodged .. but i ignored that part and i was talking about if he actually hits you with his ulti

Mr Broken WingsJan 23, 20167 votes

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i know that his ulti can be dodged .. but i ignored that part and i was talking about if he actually hits you with his ulti

You can qss it? Zhonyas it, banshee, x possibilities. His ult actually has a lot counterplay compared to things like malzahar ult that are instant or annie flash tibbers. Saying that he has little counterplay or counteroptions is simply not right.

Yi BencheikhJan 23, 20161 votes

but im talking about level 6 ? who wuld get zhonya at that level plz read before

Mr Broken WingsJan 23, 20165 votes

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but im talking about level 6 ? who wuld get zhonya at that level plz read before

You can still dodge it at this level, like honestly. If you get hit by a delayed skillshot at level 6 while you have shit like annie ult or similar things and then get comboed by a meele who needs to use his disengage spell to actually engage and you cant outtrade him then you deserve to die. Thats how the game works, if you suck youll get punished, fizz is one of the better champions in regard of counterplay and laningpressure.

ProtokaiJan 23, 20161 votes

you can flash the knock-up and damage if you time it right

Fisherman FízzJan 23, 20165 votes

He has counterplay and you can play with his damage, if you get an early abyssal or hexdrinker you pretty much take half his damage away.

Note: his E makes him untargetable not invulnerable, there's a big difference between the 2.

ExecutorDillJan 23, 20161 votes

Do not downvote this man! This is all true I have witness fizz totally annihilate with just a flipping Sheen on several occasions.

Fisherman FízzJan 23, 20165 votes

I don't see people complain when Viktor gets to level 6 and kills you in a blink. Just build item 3001 or item 3155 / item 3156 and hes done with trying to kill you garen-tee Garen

ExecutorDillJan 23, 20161 votes

wth, It's not all about who more oppressive. Even tho most of Viktor's kit can be avoided while only Fizz's ult can (lets be honest.. unless your flash is up fizz's e is way too damn fast to avoid).

It's the fact that I even though viktor deals damage I have a better chance dealing damage to him than a fizz and the little mobility he gets from q is not absurd.

ExecutorDillJan 23, 20161 votes

wth, It's not all about who more oppressive. Even tho most of Viktor's kit can be avoided while only Fizz's ult can (lets be honest.. unless your flash is up fizz's e is way too damn fast to avoid).

It's the fact that I even though viktor deals damage I have a better chance dealing damage to him than a fizz and the little mobility he gets from q is not absurd.

EDIT: I'm not saying Viktor is not strong, for instance my last rank game we should have one our vayne got a triple kill and we all went to their base where only vik and his support were and the guy got a flipping pentakill and proceeded to win game our whole team was in AWE and I even put up a nerf post about this. All I was saying is to don't downvote this man because fizz being able to mop the floor with a tank once he hits 6 with nothing more than a Sheen and his pre-build is bonkers.