One shots are still too common

GigglesO·Nov 21, 2018·4 votes·2,084 views

This whole "pick defense stats" isn't working well to reduce damage...

We need to see an actual damage nerf.

18 Comments

Smokin PenguinNov 21, 20183 votes

Not happening...

Riot wants more one shots and kills for the LCS because they think that's what makes LCS exciting to watch, kills and oneshots.

That's why they continue to nerf vision, because they want to make it as hard as possible to stay safe and protect yourself from ganks.

So that they can prevent the 15 - 20 minute first blood games where everyone is playing super safe and are just farming up for a late game teamfight that will often decide the winner of that game.

But in the end we the casuals are the ones that get screwed the most...

CynikulNov 21, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Smokin Penguin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZRfzPFFj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-21T03:05:22.535+0000)

Not happening...

Riot wants more one shots and kills for the LCS because they think that's what makes LCS exciting to watch, kills and oneshots.

That's why they continue to nerf vision, because they want to make it as hard as possible to stay safe and protect yourself from ganks.

So that they can prevent the 15 - 20 minute first blood games where everyone is playing super safe and are just farming up for a late game teamfight that will often decide the winner of that game.

But in the end we the casuals are the ones that get screwed the most...

Can you show me a fiscal year where Riot profitted in esports. Profit, not just made money, thats vital. Even if these crazy conspiracy theories are true, how exactly can one blame a company for making a game look more appealing. Really I wouldn't blame them even if that were the case, which they have 2 goals in mind like most companies: "How do we make a game thats fun/replayable" and "How do we make money?"

Smokin PenguinNov 21, 20182 votes

how exactly can one blame a company for making a game look more appealing

"Looks can be deceiving." Leblanc

which they have 2 goals in mind like most companies: "How do we make a game thats fun/replayable" and "How do we make money?"

This is where your logic becomes flawed:

It wouldn't be an issue for them to make the game LOOK better when being watched by viewers if those same viewers didn't play the game at all.
The real problem is that we the viewers also play the same game the pros are playing which means whatever meta Riot pushes for the LCS that's the meta that we viewers/players have to deal with, and right now it's a oneshot meta where god forbid you play an adc or a squishy champion, you will die before you even have time to react, which is not fun, at least to me it isn't

I never understood how the players can justify Riot the COMPANY, literally screwing over 99.9% of it's player base by making the game Fun to watch, but unfun to play, by saying "Hur dur Riot is a company and companies need to make money"

They make money when people are playing and enjoying the game because it makes the person say "I enjoy playing this game i want to support the company that made it" but if the players are not enjoying the game and are thinking of quitting they are neither going to watch LCS or buy or support Riot.

CynikulNov 21, 20183 votes

Hahaha people complain it's league of tanks, people complain when assassins are too strong, that adc's are useless, that there's not enough damage, that games are too long...

Now its too strong and the games are too short/decided too quickly. The league community humors me.

Smokin PenguinNov 21, 20182 votes

So let me hear your opinion on the current state of the game.

Because unless you're not playing the game, you have an opinion about it.

Unless you're one of those people who act like they have no opinion just so that they can mock and laugh at those that do.

chipndip1Nov 21, 20183 votes

Issue: Your rune pages are out of whack. Why the hell are you going GUARDIAN on MORDEKAISER, primarily in the non-bot lane games?

You also go Condition when you don't build Armor/Mr and you double dipped Adaptive Force. I get it's preseason again, so Riot's gotta tune some shit, but you're not helping yourself, my guy.

GigglesONov 21, 20181 votes

{quoted}

Issue: Your rune pages are out of whack. Why the hell are you going GUARDIAN on MORDEKAISER, primarily in the non-bot lane games?

You also go Condition when you don't build Armor/Mr and you double dipped Adaptive Force. I get it's preseason again, so Riot's gotta tune some shit, but you're not helping yourself, my guy.

Because my rune page somehow prevents me from watching my teammates from getting blown up in .5 seconds?

chipndip1Nov 21, 20184 votes

You haven't had a tank on your team for the last 4 games, and in the game 5 games ago, that tank was an Alistar support.

If someone building full damage hits someone building full damage, why should the fight take that long? Especially when it's actually 5 full damage champs hitting 5 full damage champs?

SoconNov 21, 20183 votes

You're not doing it right. Why do you think throwing on a bit of armour and resistance will stop someone who built full damage and their sole purpose is to do damage should stop them killing you? If you don't want to get one shot try building at least 1 full defensive item

GigglesONov 21, 20182 votes

{quoted}

You're not doing it right. Why do you think throwing on a bit of armour and resistance will stop someone who built full damage and their sole purpose is to do damage should stop them killing you? If you don't want to get one shot try building at least 1 full defensive item

One full defense item doesn't stop anything... thats why noone builds any defense items...

That is the root of this entire oneshot meta of complaints.

SoconNov 21, 20183 votes

Yeah you're right zhonyas, banshees, steraks and GA are completely useless items that no one builds.

GigglesONov 21, 20182 votes

{quoted}

Yeah you're right zhonyas, banshees, steraks and GA are completely useless items that no one builds.

Those are all damage items...

SoconNov 21, 20182 votes

No a damage item is rabbadons, ie, bt, static shiv, mejais, ludens, Morello, liandries, black cleaver, hydra, etc.

Tank items are different, tank items are dead man's, spirit visage, adaptive helm, thornmail, etc. And should be built by tanks and bruisers, sometimes fighters.

GigglesONov 21, 20182 votes

Does it offer atleast 50% of its stats as damage?

Its a damage item.

That includes item 3748 item 3071 item 3156 item 3116 item 3151 item 3027 item 3157 item 3026 item 3053 item 3102

SoconNov 21, 20182 votes

What defines the use of an item when its stats are split is its unique passive or active. Stop being stubborn.

GigglesONov 21, 20182 votes

{quoted}

What defines the use of an item when its stats are split is its unique passive or active. Stop being stubborn.

I could say the same thing about you being stubborn. All of those items have pretty decent damage attached to them. I don't actually see them as defense items when champions like yi, builds them and still just shits out damage.

SoconNov 21, 20182 votes

Ok buddy, you keep complaining about getting one shot and dying to zed ult, I'll build my zhonyas.

GigglesONov 21, 20181 votes