Option to Reset Ranked Rating

Jxi·Apr 23, 2015·2 votes·1,316 views

Literally losing the will to ~~live~~ play. I'm trying to get this acc to past gold but I don't enjoy it in bronze or silver. Not the fact that I'm here, but the fact that people are so focused on kills and not cs. They're selfish and it's so toxic, everyone blames everyone. Not to mention the afk frequency, the trolls, the pick order arguments and the "nah I'll go Nidalee jungle I saw it LCS once and even though they've probably put +100 hours into that, I have the skill to do it too". I was looking forward to trying to climb this out but the game just isn't fun. It's not being here, it's the games that I'm playing.

I'd literally pay for a hard reset of my stats. Sure, I'd still have to win my placements but I don't mind that. It'll never be an option but hey, a man can dream.

inb4 if you're good enough you'll carry (it's not the ranking, it's the game) inb4 keep trying (thanks bruh) inb4 no such thing as elo hell (oh you, you're adorable)

25 Comments

stuartk11Apr 24, 20152 votes

{quoted} people are so focused on kills and not cs.

This is so true. It's also the reason that assassins are so popular in lower elos is because of this mentality.

The best thing to do it probably just to instantly mute everyone. So many people will be as horrible as they can in the chat. Focus on your own gameplay, make sure you can tell when your team needs help or should be grouping, and when your team just doesn't know what its doing. Just don't let your own team-mate's egos get you down with constant flaming and trolling. You'll improve much faster.

JxiApr 24, 20151 votes

It's really difficult to mute my team, though. The game is always decided not necessarily on individual skill, but on how well your teammates work together. Past gold, if one lane is clearly dominant over the other that will almost always be the deciding factor, because everyone knows what they're doing. Your individual performance has a much larger effect on the game. In bronze, and usually silver, you can snowball your lane and the result still relies on whether your team knows the importance of cs, dragons, when to split push and teamfighting.

So, when someone is split pushing at the wrong time, or my team decides that killing the Malphite is much more important than focusing the 8-0 Katarina, they can't be muted. I have to tell them "hey, Yi, come help us?" or "Focus Kat please, not Malphite. Kat is killing us".

Usually that's ignored and met with complete silence, or someone assumes that they know better and will tell me in no uncertain terms that my mother is a prostitute.

stuartk11Apr 24, 20151 votes

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It's really difficult to mute my team, though. The game is always decided not necessarily on individual skill, but on how well your teammates work together. Past gold, if one lane is clearly dominant over the other that will almost always be the deciding factor, because everyone knows what they're doing. Your individual performance has a much larger effect on the game. In bronze, and usually silver, you can snowball your lane and the result still relies on whether your team knows the importance of cs, dragons, when to split push and teamfighting.

So, when someone is split pushing at the wrong time, or my team decides that killing the Malphite is much more important than focusing the 8-0 Katarina, they can't be muted. I have to tell them "hey, Yi, come help us?" or "Focus Kat please, not Malphite. Kat is killing us".

Usually that's ignored and met with complete silence, or someone assumes that they know better and will tell me in no uncertain terms that my mother is a prostitute.

Teamwork in higher tiers is very important, but at Bronze and Silver, most of your team-mates will not say anything helpful. The reason I say you should mute them is so that you don't have as much worry about having your advice ignored, or having to tell your team what to do. Are they make a stupid call? Yes. But they're not going to listen to you. Their egos are just too great to know that they're wrong, so they'll keep going as though they're right, and think that they can do no wrong.

Generally speaking, in games like this, no communication can end up being better than the type of communication that these players would offer. It starts flame wars, arguments and everyone loses focus. It's just best to avoid getting dragged in yourself, regardless of how right you may be. (I know it sucks).

JxiApr 24, 20151 votes

I suppose you're right. There's nothing I can do really.

It's extremely frustrating though. People work together back in higher tiers. The win in bronze and silver is solely dependent on the luck of the draw of your teammates, not you. I think that needs to change, somehow.

stuartk11Apr 24, 20151 votes

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I suppose you're right. There's nothing I can do really.

It's extremely frustrating though. People work together back in higher tiers. The win in bronze and silver is solely dependent on the luck of the draw of your teammates, not you. I think that needs to change, somehow.

It is frustrating. If you can play with other friends instead, it ends up being a lot more fun. There are too many kids who play the game, and think it is really hilarious to ruin people's games. They all end up falling to the bottom of the ladder, and clogging up Bronze and Silver (because they usually suck and also ruin their own games). There's not much that can be changed about the ladder either, since the same problem usually arises. Sigh.

YOLOswagLYFgg420Apr 23, 20151 votes

Just spam Annie, your rank will go up instantly! People will even pay you for lessons and you can charge them 100 dollars just to tell them to "spam Annie"

btw, you owe me 100 bucks.

T RexHasLongLegsApr 24, 20151 votes

It is more that elo hell is mental. About 40% you lose about 40% you win and 20% you are the decider if it is around the mmr you belong in. However it is easy to remember the bad and not the good, plus it is frustrating either way. I write on a post it every game someone on my team does amazing or someone on the other team trolls or afks. Helps me track the luck in the game And remember it is pretty balanced when I'm not doing stuff to make my team more likely to get upset and troll.

JxiApr 24, 20151 votes

Nah, it really is the entire experience down here. I've been on opposite sides of the MMR spectrum and the game is completely different. It's not enjoyable, it's toxic and stressful. I'd love to just get a restart to try again because I don't know how long it's going to take to get this acc up and it's not something that's going to be particularly enjoyable, even though I thought starting from the bottom would be.

T RexHasLongLegsApr 24, 20151 votes

Well I guess to each their own. I know some higher mmr players who would love the option to randomly reset their mmr back to base line since they would get short que times and get to pub stomp until their mmr went back up.

Angry MonsterApr 24, 20151 votes

odds are that you would place right where you currently are. You might want to consider the fact you are were you belong. You may understand the game better than your B2 brethren but you are falling short somewhere else.

You may not be as good as you think you are.

JxiApr 24, 20151 votes

I've multiple accounts, both others in plat (one was diamond for a while), This was my very first account and its MMR was tainted by my poor skills while I was learning. I thought it'd be nice to try to get it past gold. It isn't nice. It's not fun. It's a different game.

What really irritates me is that this is the go-to reply for any kind of thread on this topic, along with "elo hell doesn't exist scrub".

Sir YamazukiApr 24, 20152 votes

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I've multiple accounts, both others in plat (one was diamond for a while), This was my very first account and its MMR was tainted by my poor skills while I was learning. I thought it'd be nice to try to get it past gold. It isn't nice. It's not fun. It's a different game.

What really irritates me is that this is the go-to reply for any kind of thread on this topic, along with "elo hell doesn't exist scrub".

If you were ever in Plat, or Diamond, then you should be able to win against a team of Bronze players with absolutely no effort.

JxiApr 24, 20151 votes

Untrue, and if you'd bothered to read the posts in this thread, you'd understand why.

A game past gold is decided by individual performances. Players generally know the game well and know how to work as a team. It is individuals that make the difference. If you win your lane significantly, you're going to win the game (unless you balls up hard.)

In bronze, you can stomp your lane on cs and go 10-0. The game is still always dependant on your team and whether you've got one that knows the importance of cs and teamwork. Down here, I don't lose my lanes. Ever. What happens past that lane phase is highly variable, unlike when you're playing in plat.

GroundRuleDoubleApr 24, 20151 votes

Elo Hell doesn't exist. If you play the game right, you'll win. If you win, you'll move up.

JxiApr 24, 20151 votes

Sure.

It takes a hell of a long time though and it isn't fun. At all. It's toxic. It's an entirely different game.

GroundRuleDoubleApr 24, 20151 votes

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Sure.

It takes a hell of a long time though and it isn't fun. At all. It's toxic. It's an entirely different game.

After spending forever in Bronze V with 0 LP, I changed my playstyle and within a week, I got to Bronze IV with 50 LP. I'm sure the speed of my moving up will slow down, but for now, I'm climbing pretty quickly.

JxiApr 24, 20151 votes

I'm very glad. Obviously, your original comment is completely true to you. I hope you continue to learn the game and do well! :)

However, once you get to a certain level, an improvement in play style will do very little to improve your match results. The game is decided by your team mates, not you.

GroundRuleDoubleApr 24, 20151 votes

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I'm very glad. Obviously, your original comment is completely true to you. I hope you continue to learn the game and do well! :)

However, once you get to a certain level, an improvement in play style will do very little to improve your match results. The game is decided by your team mates, not you.

But you can do whatever you can to help your teammates. People often forget (not saying you) that it really is a team game, and you need to work as a team to win.

JxiApr 27, 20151 votes

Completely agree. It's a team game. You're spot on.

So when you get a team that doesn't want to work together, doesn't know the importance of cs over kills and will insult you if you ask to work together, you're screwed!

GroundRuleDoubleApr 27, 20151 votes

And that does happen. However, in my experience, the majority of time, it's not like that.

JxiApr 27, 20151 votes

You've been in B5 and have just recently moved up due to changing your play style. You were the common denominator in your results.

As I said, there comes a point where your team decides your results, regardless of how well you're doing.

GroundRuleDoubleApr 27, 20151 votes

I'm sort of confused on this. I'm considering myself a whole new summoner since I changed my play-style/philosophy. I was a trash B5 that thought I have to single handedly carry the game. Now, I'm a support main that sets up the rest of my team...I only wish I had figured this out before I trashed my MMR.

Since my change, my win rate is well above 50%. Occasionally, you get the team that intentionally feeds, gives up, doesn't listen, etc, but a majority of the time, everyone wants to win and wants to work together.

JxiApr 28, 20151 votes

Well you're having better matchups than I and long may it continue for you, friend.

MLDzXnRRRApr 27, 20151 votes

Why do you think that in Gold people are better? Have you ever watched any LCS/ LPL game - they also make mistakes - throw baron/dragons, do bad tower dives, even feed> but they are pro... and what... You can't expect from low elo players to play perfectly objective game when even at higher elo this is not often seen.

JxiApr 28, 20151 votes

Because if you had bothered to read the OP or other parts of this thread, you'd learn that I have other accounts past gold and I'm trying to get this one up. I thought it would be fun to climb the ranks but the game is completely different, both in play style and how toxic it is, down in bronze compared to how it is past gold. Past gold, if you're 10-0, your team is literally guaranteed to win because everyone is of a certain standard and they know what they're doing. You will carry them. In bronze, you can go 20-0 and still lose because your team doesn't know the importance of cs over kills, of dragons and buffs and of grouping. Therefore, in bronze, your results are determined much more by the lottery of who you get on your team as opposed to you individually. Therefore, your wins are determined by said lottery. Therefore, the people who stay in bronze, and those who get out, do so because of the teammate lottery.