Hey can reliable engage not be buyable?

Metal Janna·3/8/2020, 6:15:10 PM·1 votes·3,536 views

It was bad enough that item 3152 exists and lets bruisers extend their gap closing ability all the way to the fog of war where you have 0 chance of evading them once they're visible.

But then someone had the brilliant idea of putting a 75% slow on item 3095. With this item even marksmen can become immune to zoning. All they do is get within auto attack distance (which is usually extra large because users of this item also take RFC) and BAM you can barely move for one whole second. Best case scenario he gets several auto attacks and all his abilities off before you can disengage. But it gets worse. The biggest problem with item 3095 is that it upgrades unreliable CC like Jhin's Deadly Flourish or Cait's Yordle Snap Trap into reliable CC on the level of Twisted Fate's yellow card. The only escape is to dash... something that maybe 10% of the botlane champs have. And then if the Stormrazor user is Jhin you're still dead because your mobility options are exhausted and he just got a huge movespeed boost. Jhin, Cait, and Jinx are NOT supposed to have reliable engage. It shouldn't exist anywhere in the game but ESPECIALLY not on marksmen, the one class that's supposed to have minimal utility (Ashe being the one exception whose ULT is still less reliable than a Stormrazor into Deadly Flourish combo).

For the love of all that is holy Riot do not let reliable engage continue to be buyable for marksmen. Either remove the slow from Stormrazor or nerf the hell out of it so that it no longer upgrades secondary CC to primary CC.

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Crescent Dusk3/8/2020, 7:10:34 PM2 votes

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It was bad enough that item 3152 exists and lets bruisers extend their gap closing ability all the way to the fog of war where you have 0 chance of evading them once they're visible.

But then someone had the brilliant idea of putting a 75% slow on item 3095. With this item even marksmen can become immune to zoning. All they do is get within auto attack distance (which is usually extra large because users of this item also take RFC) and BAM you can barely move for one whole second. Best case scenario he gets several auto attacks and all his abilities off before you can disengage. But it gets worse. The biggest problem with item 3095 is that it upgrades unreliable CC like Jhin's Deadly Flourish or Cait's Yordle Snap Trap into reliable CC on the level of Twisted Fate's yellow card. The only escape is to dash... something that maybe 10% of the botlane champs have. And then if the Stormrazor user is Jhin you're still dead because your mobility options are exhausted and he just got a huge movespeed boost. Jhin, Cait, and Jinx are NOT supposed to have reliable engage. It shouldn't exist anywhere in the game but ESPECIALLY not on marksmen, the one class that's supposed to have minimal utility (Ashe being the one exception whose ULT is still less reliable than a Stormrazor into Deadly Flourish combo).

For the love of all that is holy Riot do not let reliable engage continue to be buyable for marksmen. Either remove the slow from Stormrazor or nerf the hell out of it so that it no longer upgrades secondary CC to primary CC.

You're forgetting the Hextech cannon with Veigar or Ahri pretty much guaranteeing a cage/charm. It's dumb. Or Gunblade's ridiculous slow on top of its sizable nuke.

Thefrostyviking3/8/2020, 9:16:53 PM1 votes

The hyperbole on rocket belt is real ._.

The slow on stormrazor is however indeed a problem.