Your daily reminder of how bad Zhonya's Hourglass is compared to Maw of Malmortius

Durfain·11/21/2018, 5:35:29 PM·3 votes·645 views

Due to item 3191 having a gimmicky non-real passive making it nothing but a hyper efficient stat stick, you're paying 900 gold to turn item 3191item 3108 into item 3157 for a grand total of 5 AP plus the active. It's no wonder it feels bad to build this item when the passive from item 3191 is effectively just thrown away. Meanwhile AD champions can sit on item 3155 for most of the game which along with item 3111 make you all but invincible to AP champions.

Truthfully I'm not sure how to fix the situation. At the very least either item 3191 should come fully stacked or item 3155 should also come with an initial lockout period where the shield is inactive but I feel that in the long term item 3191 needs a huge rework to be something other than just an armor stat stick. I do have some other recommendations though:

  • Increase the armor on item 3047 to 25 and reduce the passive to compensate. Okay so 30 armor was to much and everybody was building it just for the armor but it's pretty clear that 20 is too little. The defensive stats item 3047 provides should at least be on par with item 3111.

Unrelated but other possible thoughts on AP itemization:

  • Remove 10% CDR from item 3040 and add some AP back. Part of the problem with where the game is going is the huge amount of homogenization - why must every mana item have high CDR??? That's one thing I really miss about the old mana itemization is an offering of different stat choices.

  • Pleaseee fix the build path of item 3102. I can understand the argument that allowing item 1057 to be part of the build recipe could make for a stagnant laning phase but then why not allow it to build out of item 1033 item 1033? This would make the components very slot inefficient dissuading people from just sitting on the MR components without finishing the completed item. Currently it feels absolutely terrible if you need the item for the MR but have no option but to wait until the full item is completed thanks to the screwy buildpath.

4 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer11/21/2018, 5:41:52 PM3 votes

Seeker's alone blocks the entirety of the Lethality items when the attacker is at lv 18.

Stop with the "mages are weak" lie already.

Eleshakai11/21/2018, 5:39:03 PM1 votes

oh the build-path of Zhonya's is bad, true. But Zhonya's itself is insanely good on a loto f champs.

Disembark11/21/2018, 5:48:22 PM1 votes

Zhonyas is the strongest active in the game and synergizes extremely well with the cooldown reliant kits of mages. Stopwatch is insanely strong even on champs like ADCs who lose on dps while in stasis.

The fact that they have Zhonyas and seekers makes it hard for them to be given other nice things.

saltran11/21/2018, 5:56:12 PM1 votes

Zhonyas is waaaay better than Maw lmao