Lee Sin

9L9L9L9L9L9L9L··4 votes·386 views

I remember when Lee Sin was a powerful champion in Season 4, but the nerf to his E and the jungle changes hit him hard. He is standing with 45.35% winrate, according to champion.gg, which is really bad. Is there a reason why Lee Sin isn't getting attention from Riot.

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Dreadlocks3 votes

Cause 90% of the community still thinks he is broken overpowered and needs to be nerfed to the ground.. and no, i'm not apart of that 90%.

9L9L9L9L9L9L9L2 votes

He's not even broken, he has counterplay and weaknesses....ARGH! This community!!!!

Yosuke Apperu2 votes

Don't go by win rates, go by what is actually in his kit. He's got a near 20 percent pick rate and that's huge. It also means that there's room for a lot of bad players. Let's compare him to nunu 41.23 win rate.. but his pick rate is only 0.21 percent. So we can't always use win rates to determine when champions need buffs/nerfs and maybe riot is beginning to understand that.

Slamurai Jack1 votes

You're right. That's why we shouldn't go by overall winrate. We should go by what the best, most experienced players of a champion are doing. And Lee Sins in Plat+ with 125+ games are still only winning 49% of the time. If those players are still struggling to win even half their games, it's really time to question how strong Lee really is.

Yosuke Apperu1 votes

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You're right. That's why we shouldn't go by overall winrate. We should go by what the best, most experienced players of a champion are doing. And Lee Sins in Plat+ with 125+ games are still only winning 49% of the time. If those players are still struggling to win even half their games, it's really time to question how strong Lee really is.

To be honest a near 50 percent win rate sounds pretty healthy to me. If he gets too high of a win rate he'll become pick or ban status.

WinBoat1 votes

Yeah I hate when people call a champion broken.

Lee Sin is not broken. He may be OP, but he isn't broken. He has a few counters, you cant expect every jungler to beat him 1v1. Some champions just lose to others, it's plain and simple.

Only nerf I'd hit him with will be to reduce his speed, but other than that, Lee is fine honestly, and he isn't even being placed in lcs at the moment.

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