If having Eve as a jungler without gutting her is not possible,

Bârd··2 votes·408 views

Why not just balance her as a roam-heavy midlaner?

With Eve as a jungler, you need to constantly be wary of stealth ganks, and you cannot ward against her with your trinket.

If she is mid, she retains the ward immunity, but you can now at least check mid periodically to see if she is still there.

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SwapShadows2 votes

Pretty good idea but honestly they should just remove her ability to bypass wards cause all it does is get her nerfed every few months,

Bârd2 votes

Sure, and why not remove Warwick ult? All it does is get him nerfed every time there is an OP onhit item.

SwapShadows1 votes

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Sure, and why not remove Warwick ult? All it does is get him nerfed every time there is an OP onhit item.

yes that's exactly right.

let's remove the cancerous shit from champions like ww and eve so they can actually be meta without being retardedly broken.

Bârd2 votes

I think you missed the Sarcasm.

If riot removed Eve stealth, then the resulting champion is NOT EVE.

Same with Warwick.

Drakylon1 votes

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I think you missed the Sarcasm.

If riot removed Eve stealth, then the resulting champion is NOT EVE.

Same with Warwick.

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Bârd1 votes

Yeah, fuck that.

Catastrop1 votes

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Frankly she still retains her identity of "Karma". Except now it's more based of off, you cannot escape Karma than, what goes around comes around.

SwapShadows1 votes

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I think you missed the Sarcasm.

If riot removed Eve stealth, then the resulting champion is NOT EVE.

Same with Warwick.

no the resulting champion is a champion that can actually be balanced and meta at the same time.

You don't keep cancerous identities.

EXAMPLE: kassadin

Bârd1 votes

No.

That is neither a valid point nor is it a valid example of said point.

Kassadin (before his silence was removed) was completely broken. Ever since they removed it, Kassadin has been trash tier. That is not good balance.

SwapShadows1 votes

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No.

That is neither a valid point nor is it a valid example of said point.

Kassadin (before his silence was removed) was completely broken. Ever since they removed it, Kassadin has been trash tier. That is not good balance.

wtf? after his rework he was still good due to his ultimate and he had to get nerfed numerous times even after being reworked.

Bârd1 votes

Before his silence was removed, Kassadin was subject to a string of nerfs. At that point, his numbers were low, and his silence was all keeping him out of the gutter. It diddnt help that they nerfed the living shit out of Kassadins other spells when they took away his silence.

Most of the Nerfs Kassadin received were unneeded, the only ones that were necessary being the Q shield nerf (a revert of a stupid buff). He only got nerfed because he got a couple of picks in pro play and he didn't feed.

SwapShadows1 votes

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Before his silence was removed, Kassadin was subject to a string of nerfs. At that point, his numbers were low, and his silence was all keeping him out of the gutter. It diddnt help that they nerfed the living shit out of Kassadins other spells when they took away his silence.

Most of the Nerfs Kassadin received were unneeded, the only ones that were necessary being the Q shield nerf (a revert of a stupid buff). He only got nerfed because he got a couple of picks in pro play and he didn't feed.

you must be new to this game, kass was literally 100% pick/ban in competitive and solo Q

Bârd1 votes

Pre nerf.

After, he was considered shit.

Then people figured out how to make him viable.

Then he was shit again.

luckmallory1 votes

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Bârd1 votes

Not early game.

As mid or top, you would have to start item 1029 item 2041 or item 1001 and give up on some of the hp pots those starts grant you. As support, you straight up forfeit most of your pots.

Due to this, eve has free reign early game, and riot nerfs the living shit out of her so that she doesn't become popular.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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Why not just balance her as a roam-heavy midlaner?

With Eve as a jungler, you need to constantly be wary of stealth ganks, and you cannot ward against her with your trinket.

Throw your trinket into her raptor bush. giggity

Calabok1 votes

So delete eve? Cool beans!

Bârd1 votes

Erm, no.

Eve mid was a thing in season 2, less of a thing in season 3.

Not deletion,

Putting her back to when she had a definite role in league.

JRobin311 votes

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I feel you RIP Karma

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Frankly she still retains her identity of "Karma". Except now it's more based of off, you cannot escape Karma than, what goes around comes around.

You are so heartless and cruel!

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you must be new to this game, kass was literally 100% pick/ban in competitive and solo Q

I was never a fan of how RIOT handled Kassadin, but at least it's something we can look back at and learn from and hope they never do again.

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