Does anyone even use Minion Dematerializers?

The Oasis·11/29/2017, 6:54:00 PM·20 votes·1,877 views

I can understand what they were trying to do with this rune (slightly better wave control in lane and stronger pushing power), but its really outclassed by both of the other options in that part of the tree. Let's see....5% bonus damage to minions, 350 free gold and 10 otherwise unobtainable movement speed , or the ability to finish items when you're just short of gold. Tough choice.

They really should give it something. Either buff the bonus damage to add a full 4-5% per use, reduce the penalization for additional stacks, or maybe let junglers use them on jungle camps for 50-100 up front damage and a permanent damage increase on the whole camp. Heck, even swapping places in the rune tree with biscuits or something might make it a more appealing option.

41 Comments

V The Support V11/29/2017, 10:58:27 PM6 votes

I like it on summoner 12 Yorick with item 3512 or item 3056 and item 3060

YuGiHo11/29/2017, 8:51:42 PM5 votes

i use it on support zoe to take spells from minions in lane and on ranged supports like thresh and rakan to trigger targon easy

Hexs Fortune11/30/2017, 12:31:38 AM3 votes

The value is in the lane control it affords. It helps alot in bad match ups where you are often being pushed into your turret.

It's hard to predict bad match ups in bot lane though, since the player caliber of either support is always a toss up.

Jaspers11/30/2017, 1:59:12 PM2 votes

Want to try it on Heimer top. 3 uses on melee minions, so turrets can kill them faster. 2 on caster, 1 on cannon. Save one for super if you need. You'll push wave fast, take turrets faster.

Like Spell book it's a specialist thing indeed and a hard one to truely utilise fully.

F4keS4lt11/29/2017, 7:13:34 PM2 votes

I would switch cosmic insights and minion dematerializers position. I think that would kinda force you to take it or it would just completely nullify the other two like they aren't used already.

Rayjay Redfang11/29/2017, 7:11:17 PM2 votes

It helps waveclear faster which could be useful in splitpush or pushing in the wave to roam. Not essential but choose if you like it.

Votable Jester11/30/2017, 4:57:44 AM1 votes

I take it on Lux. It gives that last bit of damage on E to kill caster minions without a Luden's proc.

warpenguin55511/30/2017, 5:00:14 AM1 votes

I use it on Malzahar. Considering switching it out for that max CDR one

Skorch11/30/2017, 8:22:30 AM1 votes

I like it on clear supports like Xerath . Plus the 5%~ on mage autos is nice for last hitting without burning mana.

I do think it could use a buff, but thats just me.

Even11/30/2017, 8:52:43 AM1 votes

I do.

Bârd11/30/2017, 10:41:43 AM1 votes

Not many people use it right now, but it's likely going to be strong.

Waveclear is really damn strong; back when Maokai's sapling did impact damage, he could clear the back line with a couple dorans rings, so he could get through his shitty early game by nuking down the wave from a safe distance.

It's probably gonna be something the Koreans end up figuring out something crazy for.

Chumpzi11a11/30/2017, 11:58:18 AM1 votes

I like it. Boots take too long to show up. The debt thing is just unappealing.

Avios111/30/2017, 1:46:14 PM1 votes

As a toplaner, I use it to reach lvl 2 or 3 before my opponent, generally allowing me to time my engages and allows me to get the upper hand with out them knowing.

Poske11/30/2017, 1:47:24 PM1 votes

Hi I use it On Le blanc and it feels core with her since it turns your WQ in more efficient waveclear Also I used it on malzahar showed creat success once and I intend to keep using it, It looked really valuable

Current Diamond1 (Might be master once you read this). So its not like i am some low elo pleb who has no idea what he is doing

Regardless I do feel like dematerializer needs a slight buff

make it jump by 1.5% for each additional use rather than just 1%

I am not sure if it works with true damage. If it worked quite sure Ahri would use it

Tortunga11/30/2017, 2:26:08 PM1 votes

I have seen it being used once on a lux for some reason.

But Inspiration seems to have a lot of runes that are barely being used. I have seen one person use Unsealed Spellbook (a Nasus) and one person use Glacial Augment (A morgana). Have seen Hextech Flashtraption maybe twice. Celestial Body and Approach Velocity are a bit harder to spot, but I think I have seen them a couple times on some tanks or a Soraka, but I doubt I have seen them more then 4-5 times.

The whole tree feels to me as an idea that didn't worked out. There is one keystone that is only good on a handfull of champs (Klepto on Ez/Sona/Gp), and a couple good small runes. Rest are to situational or just plain weak/useless.

DuskDaUmbreon11/30/2017, 2:54:30 PM1 votes

Thresh would likely use it in low ELO games, and possibly even In high ones. Shield Rakan might use it, too, as might a Shield Zoe (who would want it to be able to get those balloons). Hell, any ranged support that wanted to get Shield would probably take it.

It might also see use in hard-counter matchups (or against Pantheon), where you're not even sure if you're gonna be able to CS, but I'm not certain about that.

A lot of the Inspiration tree is niche, and I think that's intentional.

EcchiOtakuTM11/30/2017, 4:30:53 PM1 votes

It's 470g free, not 350, each point of MS and extra 50g is easily calculated.

Raveolution11/30/2017, 7:01:49 PM1 votes

I use them on Gangplank so that I can clear waves easier with my barrel q's for stacks.

Lunar Lunacy11/30/2017, 9:36:27 PM1 votes

I think this is a problem with many different runes currently... There is just one that outclasses most of the other alternatives

Remlap122311/30/2017, 12:28:23 AM1 votes

Ezreal XD

COBRA C0MM4NDER11/30/2017, 1:34:25 AM1 votes

I use them with my ADC, nuke cannons and makes the wave shove faster

ViresIntus7211/30/2017, 2:10:35 AM1 votes

My issue with it is that If you push too far in the beginning and even mid game, it throws you out of position and available for enemy ganks. Splitpushers I imagine would like this though

Quepha11/30/2017, 3:58:05 AM1 votes

Yes.

Daimao11/30/2017, 4:03:14 AM1 votes

I use it to get siege minion kills as the support.