High level players, what is your opinion of Morgana mid?

Morgana Ultima·10/18/2018, 9:00:35 AM·1 votes·1,938 views

By high level I mean at least diamond.

I've been playing Morgana mid since season 1. This account is high gold and I seem to be stalling out. It seems like I just don't have the ability to out carry actual carries late game.

For example last game I:

  • Solo killed my lane twice
  • Roamed and secured four scuttles in a row and also killed the enemy jungle each time.
  • Got first tower in my lane
  • Went bot and double killed the enemy team + the jungler and took their tower.
  • Got us dragon.
  • Top damage on team
  • highest kill particpation
  • highest ward score for most of the game

Literally none it mattered. My entire team basically just inted their asses off and ended up giving up baron and we lost. This happened 3 games in a row. What am I supposed to do? It is so common for me to play so much better than everyone else in the game and just lose because somebody like Ezrael is just safer and higher damage than Morgana late game.

I almost never lose lane even against diamond players. I'm very comfortable on the character and I know all the match-ups extremely well. I have good map awareness. I help my jungle. I roam. I contribute to my team. It just isn't enough.

Is this character impossible to one trick successfully? Ive played like 200 games this season. Do I just need to play 1000 to as this character? Also, please don't give me the challenger answer of "any character is one trickable to challenger". I'm not challenger. Realistically, I'm probably high plat or low diamond in skill.

10 Comments

Rock MD10/18/2018, 7:13:48 PM2 votes

I always ask Morg mid players, "why are you going mid if you just want to be carried?" And that's the thing; if you autowin lane but if you can't give that advantage to the rest of your team before the ADC gets fed you're basically begging the RNG gods to just drop you off in the desired elo.

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I've been playing Morgana mid since season 1. This account is high gold and I seem to be stalling out. It seems like I just don't have the ability to out carry actual carries late game.

For example last game I:

  • Solo killed my lane twice
  • Roamed and secured four scuttles in a row and also killed the enemy jungle each time.
  • Got first tower in my lane
  • Went bot and double killed the enemy team + the jungler and took their tower.
  • Got us dragon.
  • Top damage on team
  • highest kill particpation
  • highest ward score for most of the game

Literally none it mattered.

And it never matters unless you're continually generating pressure and landing skillshots. It's why I don't play Lux anymore. She doesn't generate her own pressure outside of lane and because of it she's one of the worst high elo midlaners.

Your build is also awful for it. By rushing Luden's you've made yourself squishy enough to get solo killed. You never want that when you're playing utility because if you're setting up for your team, you often need to get way too close, but how are you going to do that when you die instantly?

My entire team basically just inted their asses off and ended up giving up baron and we lost. This happened 3 games in a row. What am I supposed to do? >It is so common for me to play so much better than everyone else in the game and just lose because somebody like Ezrael is just safer and higher damage >than Morgana late game.

I almost never lose lane even against diamond players. I'm very comfortable on the character and I know all the match-ups extremely well. I have good map awareness. I help my jungle. I roam. I contribute to my team. It just isn't enough.

You're averaging 5.3 cs a minute. It doesn't matter if you don't "lose lane" you're falling behind in gold and on a champion with good waveclear and some of the strongest presence in the early game as a mid champion. That's not something you want to be doing.

Is this character impossible to one trick successfully? Ive played like 200 games this season. Do I just need to play 1000 to as this character? Also, please don't give me the challenger answer of "any character is one trickable to challenger". I'm not challenger. Realistically, I'm probably high plat or low diamond in skill.

Any champ can be one tricked into diamond 5. Frankly Morg is one of the lowest skill ceilings in the game, and if you can't get to Diamond with her it says to me you aren't yet good enough and/or don't understand your role on the team.

Go back and work on your mechanics and lane presence. Go work on builds and item sets. Your best bet would be to go RoA Zhonya's, but if you absolutely have to have a CDR build try Glacial with GLP and Twin Shadows because they'll at least give you reliability on landing your Q consistently.

The Ecdysiast10/18/2018, 9:24:30 AM1 votes

Doesn't take a high rank player to tell you something you should've known since season 3. She is no longer designed to be played mid, as she's adjusted with her role as a support in mind.

But it seems you're unaware of one extremely important change they made to Morgana that completely and utterly removed her ability to be played Mid against any competent opponent: her passive no longer heals her for damage dealt to any minions besides siege minions.

ShadWooo10/18/2018, 11:42:40 AM1 votes

Better than most AP midlaners who are straight up losing to anything with tank, fighter or assassin class.

saltran10/18/2018, 2:10:38 PM1 votes

I used to play Morg mid when I wanted to chill, it's so relaxing to just farm with W and pass

Thot Patrol Ashe10/18/2018, 7:15:38 PM1 votes

I play her now and then mid. The thing is, i have found using her as a utility mid to be better like to fill the same roles a lulu or karma would. If you have a yi or kha or kaisa or kog or something similar black shielding them to pop off while you lay down the bindings can be alot better than trying to carry on your own. Back in clash beta my team did similar things like a jinx bot with lulu and i took morg mid with rengar or lee or something jung and a tanky top. We won all but the last match from cordinated hyper carry setup. Imo its perfectly fine mid just depends on the player.

Morgana Ultima10/18/2018, 10:51:32 PM1 votes

She can't CS as well late game as other champions on your team. If I W a wave that's pushing by the time my W tics down my adc or somebody similar will have just auto attacked and taken it all. It's quite annoying.

Im generally top CS in the game until really late game where I just never get any farm for the above reason. LIke my 20 minute CS is probably around 150 on average. Which isn't fantastic, but when combined with heavy roaming i think it's okay.

Looking for farm late game is something I've been working on.