Lucian in Urf is almost as mobile as Kalista in her current state.

Agidyne·Apr 5, 2015·59 votes·4,340 views

almost.

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MohawkBirdApr 5, 201511 votes

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KingsgraveApr 5, 20154 votes

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Too bad Kalista doesn't even Urf to be that mobile.

Yeah but she doesn't really do that much compared to every other mobile adc. Her mobility is slightly higher but at a somewhat heavy cost.

FırewallApr 5, 20156 votes

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Yeah but she doesn't really do that much compared to every other mobile adc. Her mobility is slightly higher but at a somewhat heavy cost.

People obviously prefer to be blown up to smidgeons in a matter of spamming 2 skills Graves , or say, be melted in 3 auto-attacks Vayne . I'd rather have a damm Kalista, who atleast gives me reaction time and actually needs her team.

Think of her like a bomb, you either get the hell out or you defuse her, didn't manage either? RIP.

VDc0zCqe0wApr 5, 20155 votes

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People obviously prefer to be blown up to smidgeons in a matter of spamming 2 skills , or say, be melted in 3 auto-attacks . I'd rather have a damm Kalista, who atleast gives me reaction time and actually needs her team.

Think of her like a bomb, you either get the hell out or you defuse her, didn't manage either? RIP.

are you really fucking whining about fucking Vayne?

this community fucking chist impaled, hope you all blow up

FırewallApr 5, 20155 votes

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are you really fucking whining about fucking Vayne?

this community fucking chist impaled, hope you all blow up

Give me reasons not to whine. I mean, reasons besides your utter lack of spelling and punctuation.

If we are going to base this argument on how mobile the ADC's are, then yes, Kalista is going to downright dominate every other ADC. But for the sweet love of credibility, factor, the bloody, damage they deal. Vayne and Lucian both deal far more damage than Kalista could ever hope to deal. Lucian presses Q and auto attacks twice for half the hp of the target. Vayne auto attacks, tumble, auto attacks and auto attacks again for bloody half the hp of the target.

They've all got different damages on the long run. Lucian's going to burst you, Vayne's going to sustain her damage through the whole fight, Kalista is bloody useless without getting 10000 spears on your face and then pressing E, I think she's entitled to having more mobility than anyone else.

PS: If you can't even argument, go home. Noone needs you and your "remarks".

VDc0zCqe0wApr 5, 20152 votes

Vayne is utter trash tier and no one ever picks her because she's useless

the only reasons why you would ever pick Vayne:

you're playing vs bronzies;
you're playing ARAM (after 2 rerolls, obviously);
you need to get a montage on the reddit frontpage

there isn't any other reason to play Vayne over anything else, not even MF

FırewallApr 5, 20154 votes

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Vayne is utter trash tier and no one ever picks her because she's useless

the only reasons why you would ever pick Vayne:

you're playing vs bronzies;

you're playing ARAM (after 2 rerolls, obviously);

you need to get a montage on the reddit frontpage

there isn't any other reason to play Vayne over anything else, not even MF

At this point, it seems you've got nothing on you to back up Vayne your theory. If you truly meant the last sentence of your post, I suggest deeply meditating over the time you've wasted on league.

AgidyneApr 5, 201511 votes

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Yeah but she doesn't really do that much compared to every other mobile adc. Her mobility is slightly higher but at a somewhat heavy cost.

slightly higher?

Vayne, who is arguably the second highest adc in the game as her Tumble really goes on like, 2 seconds cooldown at max rank is 3 or 4 times less mobile than Kalista.

One of the main reasons for the Relentless Pursuit nerfs was that it was making him too mobile, but then they release Kalista, who is even more mobile than Lucian ever was.

Martial Poise is bullshit, there is no way around it.

Kalista can even outrun a fucking Sivir while On the Hunt is on.

Guy Fox TeemoApr 6, 20152 votes

Yea you see though Kalista and Lucian are differnt champions , Lucians a Burst adc who has good mobility , Kalista on the other hand takes a lot of time to rack up her damage so she needs to stay around longer in a fight so she needs her mobility, someone like graves has decent mobility but not as good as Lucians but graves has more burst then Lucian. Take away kaliastas mobility and your left with a crappy adc who dies in 1 second because she can't kill her openly quick, she doesn't have long range like Caitlyn to stay far away and she doesn't have burst like graves to blow the person up.

DeusVultApr 5, 201511 votes

Kalista urf - nothing changes

lucian urf - spells + passive every second

AgidyneApr 5, 201511 votes

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Kalista urf - nothing changes

lucian urf - spells + passive every second

Yeah, exactly.

Kalista feels like she is already in Urf mode.

PerishSoftlyApr 7, 20151 votes

Last year the rallying cry was "Yasuo performs the same way in URF mode that he does in normals. This should illustrate how HP he is.

disregardableApr 5, 20156 votes

The difference of course is that he also does 10,000 times more damage. :D

DropFillApr 5, 20157 votes

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The difference of course is that he also does 10,000 times more damage. :D

Before the presses E

PoisonedPeaceApr 6, 20151 votes

You see, that is the problem. He doesn't.

He certainly does his damage quicker, but Kalista does just as much damage in her spell rotation, it just takes her longer to complete it.

Guy Fox TeemoApr 7, 20151 votes

THATS THE ENTIRE POINT!!! Luicians burst with mobility, Kalista damage over time with MORE mobility , do people not understand that? There's a trade off you need like 15-20 spears in your target to match Lucians burst without his ult.

Lost In TimeApr 5, 20154 votes

Too bad Lucian can be mobile without a target.

A Miss FortuneApr 5, 20151 votes

Most Kalista players are terrible with her, so I don't think she's a problem just due to how badly I see 99/100 people perform with her. This is similar to Yasuo, Yasuo's kit is overloaded. He has pretty much every thing in the game besides a heal. He has a shield, cc, game changing ultimate, no mana, high damage, wave clear, dueling abilities, powerful teamfighting abilities, tons of mobility, an ability that counters literally every projectile and ADC in the game, oh and 5,000 passives. Yet I probably see a good Yasuo once a month at the most. Most of the time Yasuo players just spam wind wall to block an AP Mid Laner's auto attacks, and then never hit a single knock up.

I feel like this is the same case with Kalista. If there were actually a lot of good Kalista and Yasuo players who actually knew how to play either of them, that could easily change League of Legends but thankfully there aren't a ton of people who can play them.

isKOPPENApr 5, 20151 votes

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Most Kalista players are terrible with her, so I don't think she's a problem just due to how badly I see 99/100 people perform with her. This is similar to Yasuo, Yasuo's kit is overloaded. He has pretty much every thing in the game besides a heal. He has a shield, cc, game changing ultimate, no mana, high damage, wave clear, dueling abilities, powerful teamfighting abilities, tons of mobility, an ability that counters literally every projectile and ADC in the game, oh and 5,000 passives. Yet I probably see a good Yasuo once a month at the most. Most of the time Yasuo players just spam wind wall to block an AP Mid Laner's auto attacks, and then never hit a single knock up.

I feel like this is the same case with Kalista. If there were actually a lot of good Kalista and Yasuo players who actually knew how to play either of them, that could easily change League of Legends but thankfully there aren't a ton of people who can play them.

Your lucky you haven't met me :P

LOL SpammerApr 5, 20151 votes

AP LUCIAN OP

The SoulforgedApr 5, 20151 votes

I'm so happy that Kalista is one of those champs who is complete trash in urf :D

ayNigerianPrinceApr 5, 20151 votes

Lucian is just fun as hell to play in urf. I've rarely played any of the "godlike" urf champs because honestly I don't generally enjoy shitting on people as a champ with no counter play (mostly because a lot of them are ap and I still have very few mages as I'm still practicing mid :P). But Lucian is just so fun to dash and pew pew all over the place. (I don't even own him either but free week :P)

Guy Fox TeemoApr 6, 20151 votes

Find it funny that people are still complaint about Kalista lols, not even "OP" , just people that play immobile melees like Darius or morse get kites by a champ who's meant to kite, get annoyed and instantly think they are OP

PoisonedPeaceApr 6, 20152 votes

God forbid people enjoy playing champs that don't have 32 gap closers, or instant safeties.

Acidic PuddleApr 6, 20151 votes

Lol I played Lucian into Xerath in URF yesterday. It was like a classic Boss battle. He would spam Qs and I would have to dodge all of them while trying to get CS. Then I got my Ult and raped him....