Why is the mid season AD friendly?

OP Garen Support··2 votes·1,032 views

Most tank items loose HP

Most AD items get more AD and becomes cheaper

Guardian Angel was an universal item for both AD and AP champions now it is only AD item. (no mage will build +40 AD) with the Total Cost: 2400g

I'm sure as hell not looking forward for unfun champions to build guardian angel among first items. I mean who enjoys facing these if they can even resurrect (Camille Darius Fizz Illaoi Irelia Jax Kled Olaf Tryndamere Yasuo Zed Riven Fiora Renekton )

Top will be hell with all these unfun true damage dealing bastards. It is already tilting facing any of them top, but if they build guardian angel because of the 50 % hp resurrection and + 40 AD. I wont go toplane ever. True tanks are weak already without buffing the brainless AD brigade.

I stopped playing top 2 seasons ago because it was dominated by true damage. Now it will be even easier for them to shit on tanks. More AD less HP meaning true damage dealers like these Vayne Fiora Darius Irelia will dominate toplane all season.

Guardian angel has a total cost of 2400 gold. This is a joke price and a must buy .

Mages still does not have better items to defend against ad champions.

item 3156 item 3157 these 2 items are not equal in power. They are good for separate circumstances. Maw of malmortius shuts down every mage early game, while Zhonia is a bad first item that can defend you but you stun yourself, meanwhile maw defends you from a full burst and you can still fight.

Usually Riot pampers ADC's but these changes help the toxic champions way more then it should. (not every toxic champion is op just very unfun to play against and attracts toxic people).

Every role should have an option to either build damage or build defensive. (should not have access to both at the same time)

Not to mention champions with HP scalings are nerfed hard with these changes.

What are your thoughts people?

14 Comments

1zseni3 votes

Guardian Angel (if it comes through with the stats it is stated) will be a no-brainer first item to any AD champ, tank, adc, assassin, you name it. It will be chaos..:D

Zero Skill Tank2 votes

Probably not first, but second or third is guaranteed.

1374342 votes

You are the missing the fact that most tank items are gaining more armor and %armor pen is being nerfed.

OP Garen Support2 votes

If tanks loosing overall 300-500 HP the 10 % less armor pen on last whisper means nothing.

Gregor Gysi1 votes

.. In addition to 5% less arpen on BC and items being compensated with armor (which is even more effective due to arpen nerfs) and cost reduction.

Considering the HUGE damage nerfs in the mastery tree recently combined with the BC change to give even less AD you will basically roll over Riven's with any tank. Not to mention those new items that essentially disable damage for 4 seconds - I wouldn't be worried if I was you.

OP Garen Support2 votes

I never seen Riven build armor pen though except for black cleaver.

Gregor Gysi1 votes

It's core against tanks. Just look at champion.gg, it's standard.

Also: That doesn't adress any of the other points I made.

The only thing Riven mains have going for themselves rn is that this item is pretty cheap.

TheJakeinator1 votes

Her most popular build rn is full armor pen

Very Hard Engage2 votes

because AD has more pen options they can have a better tailored and more optimized counterbuild.

APs have sorc boots liandries and void staff. so void is great when they build 1 mr item, necessary when they build 2. and if they build 3 mr items you just feel like crap the whole game, even building "full ap pen"

its just sucked since the removal of abyssal.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Not to forget several ability power items got nerfed in the mage 'update', while they've added more magic resist options.

Dark Nephthys2 votes

Yea I feel kind of mixed feelings about this mid-season patch. On one hand I really like Stoneplate since I mainly play Chogath top lane and that is going to be really good on him, and also looking forward to trying out Sejuani as she has been my main Jungler.

But the changes really do hurt Mid lane mages quite a bit. Yes mages will now have the new item 3102 which will be helpful but now there is 2 new tank items coming in (Stoneplate which is great against burst mages) and (Helm which basically strong against DoT or multi-hit mages) on top of losing their extra magic damage amp from item 3001 and now not really being able to use item 3026 which I used to always love building on Anivia to force them to kill me 3 times now, and now ADs can use GA to help against Mages giving them even more advantages in that already losing match up. Oh yea and as mentioned already by people in this thread, ADC items being cheaper and some of them giving more AD.

Honestly it just feels like everyone is going to get better now but for Mages which will either feel about the same, or worse depending on who you are playing.

Ahristocats1 votes

banshee becomes ap only with a retarded cooldown

your point?

no mages bought GA anyway, or it was rare

OP Garen Support1 votes

I main mid mages and I built it many times especially when I get focused in every teamfights.

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